Posted on 01/11/2022 6:22:51 AM PST by texas booster
“..Might be more efficient to dome it and valve the top?
Dunno.
The pressure should be manageable since each little porosity outlet is a control orifice.
You’d have to install a field compressor right next to it to send it on it’s way.
Like pumping a low-pressure well....”
^THIS^
It’d be one heck of a project ($$$$), but yeah. With modern materials and high tech engineering, should be able to dome it, deprive it of as much oxygen as possible to reduce the burn, control vent it and separate the gases. This would require a on-site gas treating facility to stabilize, scrub/clean up and compress (probably take several compressors) the volatile “wild ones” then sent em on their way as you’ve suggested (it’d take one of those “super evil” pipelines). Grab the CO2 and whatever else (maybe for market as well), if possible.
For a “small” nominal fee, I’m available to assist. It’s what I used to do for a living. Once successful, it’d be a great resume enhancer.
From the article:
“The “Gates of Hell” crater’s official name is the “Shining of Karakum,” but it is also known as the Darvaza Crater, named so after the nearby village.”
Was thinking about that; I would guess the dynamics are a lot different. Both are stinky and irritating problems, no question. This appears to be burning at the surface, IOW, there is no source of oxygen under the surface. In Centralia, various faults in the ground allow oxygen to penetrate underground, so you can never get to the place(s) (and there could be zillions of such places) where oxy meets red-hot fuel.
In this gas fire you might have to drill relief wells, then flood the pit with water or some very heavy gas and then blow jet engines across the surface. I’m no Red Adair.
The Centralia mine fire is a coal-seam fire that has been burning underneath the borough of Centralia, Pennsylvania, United States, since at least May 27, 1962...At its current rate, it could continue to burn for over 250 years
My husband is from the area, knew people who had evacuated and took me close enough to see the smoke rising - it's nothing like that burning pit in Turkey, though, just smoke.
They should put weenie and marshmallow roasting stations around it, or at least use it for trash disposal.
One of the problems with putting it out is that methane is a much more potent greenhouse gas than CO2.
There is going to be a lot of methane released before that thing is brought under control. Which might never happen.
Almost better to just let it burn.
Nuke it from orbit. Just to be sure.
I’m an adrenaline junkie, but I think I like my job better seeing his job in action.
A nuclear bomb about 10 kt detonated 100 feet above the fire would take all the O2 and put the fire out. This sounds like a great communist approach to problem solving. //sarc off//
That's because it's a memento of Soviet era resource management and, as a communist/socialist disaster, is immune from criticism. In woke epistemology, just as racism can only occur among white people, environmental despoilation is only attributable to capitalism.
I disagree. An attempt should be made to secure that energy for the citizens. If things go wrong someone can always let it on fire again very easily to burn the methane.
Paging Red Adair......
It’s pretty sandy there. The gas would just go around, I suspect.
He’s been dead 20 years.
.028% to .041%
Throw Stacy Abrams in the hole to block it.
Of course, her melting fat may create an even bigger conflagration.
Based upon the given dimensions of 265ftx65ft (assuming its diameter is 265ft), they only 105,000 CY of dirt.
They could scape 1 ft of dirt off an area approximately 324ft around the crater and push it into the crater. Within a year the scaped area would look like the rest of the surface around it.
IIRC, the TOTAL atmospheric CO2 is four hundredths of one percent.
Darvaza time when it was called that.
I get paid as an auditor in one of my contracts ... sounds like I need to be doing government work.
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