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Where Hal Lindsey and Dispensationalism Went Wrong
Prophecy Questions Blog ^ | February 1, 2024 | Charles Meek

Posted on 03/13/2024 5:15:29 PM PDT by grumpa

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To: PeterPrinciple

Wrong is subjective because “evidence” is subjective. The message you are delivering is that there is no sense in believing in God because he ain’t comin’ back. It is a message not of hope, but of hopelessness. Evidence is always subjective ... or do you believe Trump is guilty just because he was charged with crimes. Believing in the return of God requires faith. Maybe you should develop a little faith yourself before you go trying to tear down others faith. You dont need to worry a hair on your head about my salvation ... its between me and God.

Joshua 24:15
And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.


21 posted on 03/13/2024 5:53:44 PM PDT by RainMan ((Democrats ... making war against America since April 12, 1861))
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To: Red6

That is why doctrine and tradition matter.


both need to be tested and the touch stone is God’s word.

regarding tradition, Jesus didn’t think too highly of untested tradition:

(Mark 7:8) For you ignore God’s law and substitute your own tradition.”

(Mark 7:9) Then He said, “You skillfully sidestep God’s law in order to hold on to your own tradition.

(Mark 7:13) And so you cancel the word of God in order to hand down your own tradition. And this is only one example among many others.”

Note Jesus did not say all traditions are bad, just to test them.

Personally, I find the old doctrines well tested.


22 posted on 03/13/2024 5:55:26 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: RainMan

Wrong is subjective because “evidence” is subjective. The message you are delivering is that there is no sense in believing in God because he ain’t comin’ back.


Now where did you get that? That is your projection.


23 posted on 03/13/2024 5:56:49 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: grumpa

My sister is in to this nonsense and she’s mentally ill. Because of her I’ve been exposed to many of these people and many of them do the talk but they don’t understand what Christianity is all about. They have been led down a foolish road and It’s hard for me to even consider them Christians. It’s like the Mormons and their magic underwear. Sorry I don’t mean hate I just think they are seriously misguided.


24 posted on 03/13/2024 5:57:41 PM PDT by jimwatx
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To: grumpa

My beef with dispensationalism is that it all seems like such a distraction. Let’s stipulate that dispensationalism is correct (although hard to do since there are different versions). The next question is, “Now what?” The answer is still to grow in one’s own sanctification. So what difference does it make?


25 posted on 03/13/2024 5:59:51 PM PDT by TexasKamaAina (The time is out of joint. - Hamlet)
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To: RainMan

My issue is that Jesus says no one knows when and the exact how. NOW THAT IS DAMAGING TO THE KINGDOM FOCUSING ON THAT.

Put 100 dispensationalist is the room and you have 100 different ideas. Jesus didn’t want us focusing on unknowable details

Can we agree that repent for the Kingdom of heaven is near is the main message?

Are you preaching that?


26 posted on 03/13/2024 6:00:59 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: grumpa
i dont create stand alone posts attacking

i defend my belief from your attacks

why should i go to your link why dont you post your doctrines here instead of your attack threads
?

did humblegunner chase you off for blog pimping ? ( cant believe im defending that, but maybe they were in the right doing that /-)

do you make financial profit from your links ?... .. so,,, im beginning to understand you don't ascribe to any denomination,, , .. .. so have you just started your own cult ?

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27 posted on 03/13/2024 6:02:28 PM PDT by cuz1961 (USCGR Vet, John Adams Descendant , deal with it.)
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To: PeterPrinciple

YESHUA is referring to the Talmud, and the oral law, I think, it had already been partly developed.


28 posted on 03/13/2024 6:07:53 PM PDT by cowboyusa (AT THIS POINT, I'M WARMING TO AN AMERICAN PINOCHETE. )
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To: cowboyusa

YESHUA is referring to the Talmud, and the oral law, I think, it had already been partly developed.


And we are still doing it.


29 posted on 03/13/2024 6:09:09 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: grumpa
Dispensationalism was born in 1830 with John Nelson Darby. It died in 1988 when their prophecies failed to materialize in “that generation.”

Unfortunately, Darby’s theories are hardly dead, and large portions of them are still being taught in many (most?) Christian churches in the US.

30 posted on 03/13/2024 6:15:24 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (It is far easier to fool someone, than to convince them that they've been fooled. )
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To: PeterPrinciple

Only trust the WORD.


31 posted on 03/13/2024 6:16:38 PM PDT by cowboyusa (AT THIS POINT, I'M WARMING TO AN AMERICAN PINOCHETE. )
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To: cowboyusa

Have you ever read the Talmud? I’ve always thought it odd that Catholics were forced to remove the term “perfidious Jews” from one of their prayers yet nobody says anything about the hateful things in the Talmud.


32 posted on 03/13/2024 6:17:34 PM PDT by jimwatx
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To: waterhill

Well if that is even remotely accurate (which it is not) as things are getting so bad now I think within 5 years this old world will be iffy to even survive for long..


33 posted on 03/13/2024 6:27:08 PM PDT by dpetty121263
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To: jimwatx

Yes, I know all the dicusting thing it says. Trust only the Word.


34 posted on 03/13/2024 6:27:29 PM PDT by cowboyusa (AT THIS POINT, I'M WARMING TO AN AMERICAN PINOCHETE. )
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To: noiseman

You say I cannot explain. But oh I can. I have articles on each of your gotcha statements. They can be found here:

Second Coming: https://prophecyquestions.com/category/second-coming/

New Heaven and New Earth: https://prophecyquestions.com/10-clues-to-understanding-the-new-heaven-and-new-earth/

The Great judgment: https://prophecyquestions.com/days-of-vengeance/


35 posted on 03/13/2024 6:30:58 PM PDT by grumpa
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To: grumpa

Satan and his legions of demons are working night and day grabbing souls and spreading false teaching and promoting false prophets. The old saying the Devil takes care of his own is a true statement...signs and wonders.


36 posted on 03/13/2024 6:33:23 PM PDT by dpetty121263
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To: grumpa

All I read was hate and lies in your Op post, you take extreme liberties expousing much stronger views to a writer in order to create your spiteful diatribe.

One simple example is locking a generation into 40 years, biblically a generation can range from 30 years for those born to a category of the people of the time, meaning a generation can be hundreds of years, like a period of kings during a dynasty in Israel.

Such bad faith arguments only serve to show your desire to deceive God
s people, I pray you find love and truth, not this hateful rhetoric.

Christ will return, we can all debate wether being called up to him is pre, mid or post, none of that is doctrinal, but his return sure is and it will happen!


37 posted on 03/13/2024 6:34:08 PM PDT by Skwor
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To: PeterPrinciple

NOBODY but a few crackpots try to predict the day or hour, which Jesus said nobody can know.

HOWEVER, when the disciples asked Him what to watch for for signs of the end, He gave them that information. All of Matthew 24 addresses that. He told us to watch for the seasons for what it is near, BUT the EXACT day and hour is unknown.

There is nothing wrong with looking at the world stage these days and seeing areas where prophecy is likely or has been fulfilled.

Being ready for the rapture does not lull people into carelessness or apathy any more than being aware that today could be your last day on earth anyways.

If you are going to be ready for the rapture, you are going to also be ready for death because you don’t know which will come first.

Sheesh, the false accusations and portrayals about those who believe in the rapture is astounding. It’s all done not to present a case from Scripture for not believing in a pre-trib rapture. it’s mostly personal attacks trying to discredit the argument by discrediting the people who believe it. Personal attacks of a person is hardly a winning debate strategy.


38 posted on 03/13/2024 6:41:49 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: grumpa

This guy sounds angry.


39 posted on 03/13/2024 6:42:16 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: PeterPrinciple

Hal Lindsey, pfft.

CC


40 posted on 03/13/2024 6:44:18 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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