Posted on 05/04/2024 6:02:09 AM PDT by tired&retired
Interesting.
I’ve just started binge watching THIS:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1196946/fullcredits
What moves is the physical effect of consciousness, not consciousness itself.
Consciousness is the Is, the singular for which there is no plural, the ground of all being, the fundamental of the Universe, the One Mind. Everything physical is its expression, its emanation. conscious and deliberate.
Just as we are physically alive, but Life itself is not a physical thing, we are conscious, but consciousness itself is not physical.
What is true is that my opinion is quite different than yours, and since this was entered as an item in the General/Chat Forum rather than the Religion Forum, it's probably better to just let it go without contesting your ideas.
Perhaps you may come to see things a little bit differenlyt when you have begun to pay a little more attention to the customary methods for debating, and the kind of reasoning involved.
But your approaches have been beneficial by giving me another opportunity to review again my own doctrines as well as bringing to light some new insights adding to what I've already learned from a life of studying under some very wise mentors in Scriptural matters that outline the boundaries of the biological, psychological, and spiritual dimensions.
Thank You for the comments.
I’m really not into debating. I’m into gaining greater understanding.
Usually, it’s much easier to just demonstrate the point I’m sharing, rather than play tennis with theory.
I really do thank you for your questions as they forced me to reflect deeper on my experiences.
🙏
Just as the Eskimos have a thousand words for snow, there are many thousands of words for consciousness, each one with a different perspective of the attributes.
And when they shall say unto you, Seek unto them that have familiar spirits, and unto wizards that peep, and that mutter: should not a people seek unto their God? for the living to the dead? To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no [true] light in them. (Isaiah 8:19-20)
Agreed
Wizards that Peep and mutter....
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If I don’t have a thought that comes with
a reference to our Bible it’s just me.
Then I’m up for corrections From scripture or others with wisdom About scripture.
The enemy is good at Deception.
I want to be God’s Friend but not at the expense of gaining it through some other wicked path.
Nailed it Again !
It was pointedly enunciated by God Incarnate primarily to His personally chosen disciples (but through them also eternally to the whole world of the First Adam's descendants) in an excerpt from His "Sermon on the Mount" (Matthew, 6:30-34, AV translation, His greatest imperative command highlighted and personally notated by myself):
30Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is, and to morrow is cast into the oven, shall he not much more clothe you, O ye of little faith? 31Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed? 32(For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things. 33ButAnd so it ought to be imprinted upon our slumbering or wakeful "consciousness," whether "lower" or "higher," to have one's Christian mind and heart and will focused on pleasing our Creator and Master, and thus to continually receive all His gracious benefits.at all times constantly beseeking ye first the kingdom(kingship) of God, and his righteousness;and all these things shall be added unto you.Â
34Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself.
Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.Â
“And so it ought to be imprinted upon our slumbering or wakeful “consciousness,” whether “lower” or “higher,” to have one’s Christian mind and heart and will focused on pleasing our Creator and Master, and thus to continually receive all His gracious benefits.”
Totally agree. Also ....
John 14:12
“12 “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do he will do also; and greater works than these he will do, because I go to My Father. “
I don’t see that your General/Chat Forum speculations arise from a Scriptural foundation or on the uses of its languages. I don’t wish to pursue the discussion in this forum. If you do, it really belongs in a different portion of the Free Republic experience, IMHO.
JESUS IS LORD, JESUS IS MY SAVIOR.. These are my words.
1 Corinthians
The Gifts of the Holy Spirit
12 Christian brothers, I want you to know about the gifts of the Holy Spirit.
You need to understand the truth about this. 2 You know that before you were Christians you were led to worship false gods. None of these gods could speak.
3 So I tell you that no one speaking by the help of the Holy Spirit can say that he hates Jesus. No one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the help of the Holy Spirit.
The Kinds of Gifts
4 There are different kinds of gifts. But it is the same Holy Spirit Who gives them.
5 There are different kinds of work to be done for Him. But the work is for the same Lord.
6 There are different ways of doing His work. But it is the same God who uses all these ways in all people.
7 The Holy Spirit works in each person in one way or another for the good of all.
8 One person is given the gift of teaching words of wisdom. Another person is given the gift of teaching what he has learned and knows. These gifts are by the same Holy Spirit.
9 One person receives the gift of faith. Another person receives the gifts of healing. These gifts are given by the same Holy Spirit.
10 One person is given the gift of doing powerful works. Another person is given the gift of speaking God’s Word.
Another person is given the gift of telling the difference between the Holy Spirit and false spirits.
Another person is given the gift of speaking in special sounds. Another person is given the gift of telling what these special sounds mean.
11 But it is the same Holy Spirit, the Spirit of God, Who does all these things. He gives to each person as He wants to give.
AND
I BELIEVE (AND KNOW) THAT JESUS WAS BORN IN THE FLESH (My Words)
1 JOHN 4
“Test the Spirits
4 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.
2 By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 3 and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you heard was coming and now is in the world already.
4 Little children, you are from God and have overcome them, for he who is in you is greater than he who is in the world.
5 They are from the world; therefore they speak from the world, and the world listens to them. 6 We are from God. Whoever knows God listens to us; whoever is not from God does not listen to us. By this we know the Spirit of truth and the spirit of error.”
Think about these scriptures... Pray and meditate on them. Invite the Holy Spirit into you to help understand and teach you.
Many of you folks sound just like the Pharisees. Your words are with judgement and without Love. You would not know Jesus if you fell over Him. Like the Pharisees, your words fall upon deaf ears and are not heard above. It’s no wonder that the Holy Spirit has passed by you as you are so full of your own importance that you have no room for God.
Blessings
Typical.
When all else fails accuse those exposing your spiritual deception of being *pharisees*.
Throwing around some Bible verses does not at all legitimize your demonic deception.
You are definitely a comedian...
These are from the same Bible that you selectively quote to attack me. Let the blind lead the blind.
Matthew 15:
12 Then the disciples came to him and asked, “Do you know that the Pharisees were offended when they heard this?”
13 He replied, “Every plant that my heavenly Father has not planted will be pulled up by the roots. 14 Leave them; they are blind guides. If the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit.”
Dude, in a round about way, you are trying to tell female Freepers, that they can not post anything that disagrees with your new age mysticism. I don’t agree with your theology either. It is not up to you, to determine who can post and who cannot.
FR Men’s Women haters Club is still going strong I see. Men think they can order women around like they own them and then wonder why feminism is a thing.
Sheesh......
Anyways, I’ll call out doctrines of demons anytime I see it.
In Hinduism, they have ecstatic experiences but it’s the kundalini spirit which is causing them. Then the person is hooked into demonism. Which sounds a lot like the hokum passed off as Christianity on this thread when brain waves and the levels of consciousness crap.
As in errors of extreme esotericism.
And the Mormons say the same, with their elevated man God and his wife, Luicifer brother Jesus, etc., while 1 John refers to the Divine Son of who is from everlasting. And the redeemed are those who have been spiritually born of the Spirit (Jn. 3:2-7) by effectual, penitent, heart-purifying, regenerating faith (Acts 10:43-47; Acts 15:7-9) in the Divine Son of God sent be the Father to be the Savior of the world, (1 Jn. 4:14) who saves sinners by His sinless shed blood, on His account , rendering them "accepted in the Beloved" (Eph. 1:6; Eph. 2:6-9) - not deserved by any merit of themselves or any church.
And which faith is imputed for righteousness, (Romans 4:5) and is shown in baptism and following the Lord, (Acts 2:38-47; Jn. 10:27, 28) whom they shall go to be with or His return (Phil 1:23; 2Cor. 5:8 [“we”]; Heb. 12:22,23; 1Cor. 15:51ff'; 1Thess. 4:17) In contrast to those who were never born of the Spirit or who terminally fall away. (Gal. 5:1-4; Heb. 3:12; Heb. 10:25-39) Glory and thanks be to God.
Key aspects of which you have perverted.
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