U.N. constitution for the oceans – a done deal: how scientists using Titanic to push global treaty

WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Friday, June 25, 2004 | Joan Veon

[coydog]

I know all about grabby bureaucrats, I live in Canada. With regards to the old revolutionary spirit, start identifying those jackboot creatures, 'crat scum and bootlicks who are in on this on a local level, the footsoldiers of the UN machine, and start working to undermine them in every possible way - no foot, no horse! Have loud public conversations about 'So and So', refuse them service in your establishments, shun them ostentatiously and let the world know why and what the stakes are, do everything you can to ostracize them. All kinds of social warfare tactics that they can't do anything about short of dropping all pretense and going total jackboot, which will destroy their cuddly public mask for good. If you already make it clear to people exactly who is hitting them in the pocketbook and in the property rights, the rest will be absolute poison to them.

[TigersEye]

I can just bet you that Leaky Leahy and Jumpin' Jim voted for it. Leahy may be outta there next Jan. but the damage is done.

[Carry_Okie]

LOL! Gettin' feisty does help. I wrote a whole book on deconstructing socialist regulation.

[TigersEye]

Do you think you'll get many in your community to sympathize with doing that to your local sherrif and town building inspector over some never heard of LOST Treaty and tinfoil rantings about the U.N.? Unless their own ox is being gored that is how most people will look at it.

[Ronaldus Magnus]

Is it too late to write our senators? I still don't understand why the U.S. or the administration would be in favor of it.

[hedgetrimmer]

They are wildly sucessful in California, here is how they do it.

They do not need UN personel to patrol just the multitude of NGOs that are out there. The NGOs do all the policing, and file the lawsuits. They are very effective in stifling freedom and freedom of movement in California.

[B4Ranch]

#1 Read the article. Joan Veon is talking out her pantyhose. It has NOT been ratified!

>>The U.S. government is actually implementing nearly every chapter of the Law of the Sea Treaty since it was first adopted, and we are now looking for Senate ratification. <<

We are illegally implementing every part that the people allow without violence.

Senator James Inhofe, Republican chairman of the Senate Environment Committee is saving our butts.....for a little while.

The Bush administration supports ratification and is joined in that position by a leading member of the U.S. Senate, Senator Richard G. Lugar.

Senator James Inhofe, Republican chairman of the Senate Environment Committee and a critic of the U.N. treaty, cited published newspaper accounts reporting that the Bush administration was retreating from its effort to win Senate endorsement for the 1982 convention under pressure from conservatives who contend it gives the United Nations too much power. Turner rebutted those reports.

http://usinfo.state.gov/gi/Archive/2004/Mar/24-878973.html

Keep in touch with Senator James Inhofe
DC
Phone: 202-224-4721
Fax: 202-228-0380

OK Phone: 405-608-4381
Fax: 405-608-4120

[highlander_UW]

In a follow-up interview with Mr. Connaughton, I asked him about the commercial side of the treaty that establishes for the first time a commercial venture called the "Enterprise" that will charge $250,000 for the right to mine the ocean sea beds.

It all comes down to another way for the UN to make money. The UN is shameless.

[hedgetrimmer]

Its never too late, and enough heat on the white house will kill this.

The white house may be using psy ops, who knows? If they tell people its a done deal they are probably hoping that no one will object, and that gives them free reign to do what they want.

In my experience, opposition matters a great deal, and the act can be tabled if people ACT. Don't let them convince you to stay silent and acquiesce
Remember, if good men stay silent, evil will prevail.

[Carry_Okie]

I know it's not ratified.

Thanks for the reminder about Mr. Inhoffe.

[B4Ranch]

He's been my hero this year!

[.30Carbine]

Yes, this treaty has military implications.

And speaking of our military, the International Criminal Court is now empowered to try U.S. soldiers - our representatives caved on opting out. If you read the article I've linked to you may note, as I did, that the Abu Ghraib prison scandal was used as leverage against the United States and our goveernment's formerly strong stance against this court claiming any power over our troops or citizens.

Here's another article; this one states, "Proponents of the ICC say it is highly unlikely that U.S. citizens would be brought before the court, since the United States has a functioning justice system." Well, let me just jot down this reminder: President Bush and our Republican Congresscritters have caved to Democrats on the selection of judges, so the sort of "functioning" we've witnessed in U.S. courts of late is not only going to continue, it is going to get worse. And if Right-thinking people try to fight it, guess who is now empowered to step in and resolve the issue? Remember the fiasco in Florida in 2000? Gore would have brought his issues with that interminable count to this International Court...and they would have given the "election" to him.

LOST and the ICC together move the United States into total subservience to a global government, headed by the United Nations. The decadently Liberal judges in our once-sovereign nation have been working on the idea of a "global converstation" in our courts for a long time now. It is way past time to smell the coffee. We're drowning in it.

[.30Carbine]

footnotes in history

[George Frm Br00klyn Park]

I venture that since the Law of the Sea is a done deal that this new agreement will be made part of the Law of the Sea legislation – or perhaps it will be the other way around. Since "we the people" have become nothing more than serfs with government collecting our tax dollars and using them without representation, it is our freedoms, using the treaty's acronym, that have been LOST!
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Guys, This is a bet on which you can "bet the farm". Or lose it. Peace and love, George.

[YOUGOTIT]

Do not forget that a treaty overrides the Constitution. It becomes part of the supreme law of the land. There are groups who will use this treaty to harass and try and destroy freedom. The first court battle should start within a few days of this treaty being ratified by an inept anti-American Senate. This is why we need to repeal the 17th amendment to the Constitution and move the selection of Senators back to where the founders put it - in the states house of representatives - that way we can have some Americans supporters in the Senate who will respond to the American people.

[MeekOneGOP]

bump !

[take]

a package of 34 treaties, all of which were ratified by a show of hands -- no recorded vote.
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3a325b3f5d31.htm



Annan in historic meeting with Supreme Court &Congress/is believed to be unprecedented.
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b0c30a81760.htm

[TigersEye]

Oh, our judges want a global conversation do they? I predict a heavy thunderstorm that will cause a lot of static on the line.

[Milligan]

Gulf of Mexico is chuck full of historical wrecks. I guess we can't drill for oil because UN will say the Gulf of Mexico is a historic site. UN will be telling what we should do in US waters and might have to change ports so we don't disturb a sunken Santa Maria. How would this effect US submarine service going on patrol? Will our enemy hide behind historical site?

Don't sign it. Don't we already have "Laws of the Sea"? It's been working fine for years.

[LibertarianInExile]

Let them try to enforce their laws on the high seas. Fat chance.