Ok, maybe that was it? Bottlenecks! They just keep moving.

[shezza]

Ooops, sorry! Meant John! (I'm used to thanking Jim -- but THANK YOU JOHN!) Sheesh! I need more coffee.

[snopercod]

Yeah, I know the feeling. My backend is doing just fine, but my frontend needs enhancement.

[scripter]

unless your looking to get one of the SUN AMD servers with the insane cooling systems stay away from AMD for a server.. you think you have fire/thermal problems now

That's no longer an issue or it isn't an issue with the right setup. We researched a number of issues for a couple of weeks, especially the cooling issues but our concerns were laid to rest. The SuperKool technology keeps the 1u boxes cool - the 2,3 and 4u units stay about the same temperature.

Four years ago I had this setup at home. After too many warm days we moved to a real data center with redundant everything. Heat has always been an issue for us but we're no longer concerned with the AMDs.

[Darksheare]

"317 processes: 306 sleeping, 10 running, 1 zombie, 0 stopped"

We found where that missing Zombie went.
John's got him and put him to work!

[Darksheare]

"The breakers blew twice here at home when I was compiling Gentoo on all three boxes. My 650 watt UPS powered them along for literally 5 seconds before it gave up in disgust. LOL"

Oh man, that's sadistic!
Compiling Gentoo.. ad then having the UPS power the things for 5 minutes?

[melkor]

some people dont have heat issues with them..

and some people use the hell outta their servers full blast 24/7 for weeks on end.

the 64s cool on their downtimes. they ramp up so fast that they start to get reallly nasty hot with the design idea that your not always at 100% so they get a chance to cool down before reaching crit temp but in alot of backend and frontend server systems that are goin full bore all the time, the cpu downtime is nonexistant and the xp/mp cannot survive a cooling failure, even the technical documents that AMD sends to its resellers say that if the chip is operated for even 1 second without proper heatsink AND fan the core is compromised.

we get alot of AMD XPs and MPs in for repair and have already started to get the first few 64s in for repair, all of them heat issues. One good thing tho, AMD has a killer warranty and will happily exchange them.

dont get me wrong. AMD makes a better workstation CPU than Intel for doing things such as autocad and photoshop, and the xp is nice for office and other daily user programs. you can buy a faster AMD for the same price as the Intel.

Ill stick to Intel for gaming and server applications.

[scripter]

Interesting. We've used Intel for workstations and had problems and AMD for servers and never (since 99) had problems. Well, the servers are getting old...

[TechJunkYard]

Swap: 2040244K av,   22900K used, 2017344K free                  223376K cached

Gee, you're hardly touching your swap space.. what's the problem?

CPU0 states: 12.1% user, 69.0% system,  0.0% nice, 18.0% idle
CPU1 states: 12.0% user, 63.0% system,  0.0% nice, 24.0% idle

Oh, yeah.

I have three amateur radio repeaters in a 10-foot-tall cabinet at a local broadcaster's transmitter site. No air conditioning in the transmitter room. And we wondered why things sounded really distorted on a hot summer day... especially after I installed EchoLink, which keeps the repeaters quite busy. I installed a temperature sensor and found the in-cabinet temp to be around 120 to 130° F!

I had to install a big hassock fan outside the cabinet to blow cool air in, as the radio fans were just circulating the hot air around inside the cabinet. Now the cabinet stays within 5 or 6 degrees of the room air temperature, which still gets up around 105° or so on a hot day. The fact that we're right next to the NOAA Weather Radio transmitter cabinet doesn't help.

Gotta keep those things cool, man!

[Petronski]

The table was nice, but I needed the flaming tower icon to understand it. That new frontend was the bees knees last night. When the traffic is automatically divided between the two, I suspect everyone here will be smiling broadly.

[John Robinson]

Seconds even. Probably less than 5, maybe half a second. By the time I realized only a breaker blew (the rest of the house was powered) the UPS shut down. I didn't drain the battery, I think I was drawing too much power, must have tripped the UPS' breaker too. LOL!

I got real good at compiling and installing Gentoo (stage1 no doubt.) Ended up building six sets of packages (PentiumII, PentiumIII, PentiumIV for server installs, and the same for workstation installs) and bunches of kernels for the various classes of systems I use. Made tarballs of everything, and am now working on tarballs of configured systems for the various machines I want to upgrade (from RedHat 7.2--cringe.) When they're ready, all I'll need to do to upgrade a machine is to boot the LiveCD, fdisk, mke2fs, untar, grub-install, and reboot ready to go. Very happy.

[null and void]

Soooo, what are you going to do in your spare time?

[Darksheare]

OUCH.
Sounds like my "three minutes until oblivion" Office UPS.
In reality I have to crash dump things to shut down in under a minute.
The power company here likes to play little voltage games, so we call them "Spike and Bite", because the voltage in the lines spikes and then drops off the scale.

Friend of mine swears by RedHat 7.2...
*scratches head*

LOL!
When you get to doing the upgrades on the project machines, good luck.
And have fun.
*chuckle*

[Darksheare]

Got a wav file and image you can pirate for the next time some puter somewhere goes on strike:

right click 'save target as' Zorak on strike, save image as Zoraksign.

[melkor]

using intel mobos for the workstations? intel makes the worst boards ever in my opinions...(and that of many many many others)

go for an asus for workstation or supermicro for server. same price, much better support and compatibility.

[First_Salute]

At Sam's Club: APC® Back-UPS Pro 1100

$124.63.

[okie01]

Thanks, John.

[Mama_Bear]

so, the external clastoid mastoid hyberchronifiar, dismachifnegated the hypostatic ekenosinator, thereby vitiatimating the vortocuticlastical shmagtrofinator...right?

Makes perfect sense to me, yep. ;-)

Thanks for the ping, tame. It's a humbling experience to realize that I basically know nothing about how this whole internet thing works. LOL

BTW, when I spell-checked this post, "clastoid", "hypostatic", and "ekenosinator" came up as the only words in your sentence spelled wrong. "Shmagtrofinator" is a word??? LOL

[ladyinred]

Don't touch that dial!

Uh oh. Too late for that! I may disappear into never neverland when this all happens, whatever this is that is going to happen! :-)

[tame]

:o)