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How US stopped Hambali
The Australian ^ | February 11, 2006 | Natalie O'Brien and Patrick Walters

Posted on 02/10/2006 7:04:06 PM PST by Fred Nerks

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1 posted on 02/10/2006 7:04:09 PM PST by Fred Nerks
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To: Fred Nerks

(Thought Ken, the Black Avenger, had come out of retirement, I miss him very much)

Hamblen, Hambli, Hamblu, hey it's easy to misread headlines...


2 posted on 02/10/2006 7:18:01 PM PST by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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"Southeast Asian terror group Jemaah Islamiah and its operations chief Hambali were named by US President George W. Bush as the figures behind a 2002 plot to fly a plane into California's tallest building."

I'm an Aussie, The Black Avenger means nothing to me, but how the US stopped Hambali does.


3 posted on 02/10/2006 7:29:39 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Understand Islam. Read the Biography THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD. pdf link on My Page)
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Wasn't making light of President Bush or his accomplishments, my post may have been off topic but... it is what it says and means what it means while it says it.


Basically I agree with you, most anyone with at least cerebral cortex would, does or will.

TT
4 posted on 02/10/2006 7:37:57 PM PST by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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I know what you mean. I'm just a bit cranky at the insinuations from the left that the statement was made simply as a scare tactic.

How many 9/11 will it take for the Dems to get the message?


5 posted on 02/10/2006 7:46:27 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Understand Islam. Read the Biography THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD. pdf link on My Page)
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How did they manage to recount the story of Bojinka without mentioning Ramsi Yousef, its mastermind?

Ramsi Yousef, for those just tuning in, was also the mastermind of the first World Trade Center attack in the early nineties, and an Iraqi agent.


6 posted on 02/10/2006 8:46:06 PM PST by marron
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I guess it's because the story was written by an Aussie to whom the terror organisation JI (Indonesia)and the name Hambali rings louder bells than Yousef.

However, I'm inclined to agree leaving out the mastermind shows how shallow journalistic research is, regardless of nationality.


7 posted on 02/10/2006 8:54:57 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Understand Islam. Read the Biography THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD. pdf link on My Page)
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Good point.


8 posted on 02/10/2006 9:14:20 PM PST by marron
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save


9 posted on 02/10/2006 10:15:37 PM PST by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: Fred Nerks
Fine article, generally.
I guess it's because the story was written by an Aussie to whom the terror organisation JI (Indonesia)and the name Hambali rings louder bells than Yousef.

However, I'm inclined to agree leaving out the mastermind shows how shallow journalistic research is, regardless of nationality.

Journalism is inherently shallow since, as a genre of nonfiction, it is defined by its deadlines.

Journalism is also inherently arrogant when it presumes to be more objective than the general public. Objectivity is a virtue, and it is arrogant to argue from a claim of your own superior virtue.

That's why sophistry has such a bad name - it's simply the assumption of your own superior wisdom. And if two people each argue from the assumption that they are wiser than the other, you don't have a debate but a shouting match, if not a fistfight.

Why Broadcast Journalism is
Unnecessary and Illegitimate


10 posted on 02/11/2006 3:36:52 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters but PR.)
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To: AdmSmith; Cap Huff; Coop; Dog; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ganeshpuri89; Boot Hill; Snapple; ...

Ping


11 posted on 02/11/2006 3:38:52 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (John 6: 31-69)
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I thought the most interesting part of this story was the explanation (finally) of what the shoe bombs are for.

They are cockpit breaching devices.

12 posted on 02/11/2006 3:40:46 AM PST by Jim Noble (And you know what I'm talkin' 'bout!)
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I'm just a bit cranky

Welcome to my life.

Islam pisses me off.

13 posted on 02/11/2006 3:41:01 AM PST by Lazamataz (Islam is a fatal disease that must be eradicated from the body Earth.)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion; Dark Skies; USF

Can't thank you enough for that link:

Why Broadcast Journalism is Unnecessary and Illegitimate
Sept 14, 2001

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/523109/posts

Now I'm going back to read more of the thread.




14 posted on 02/11/2006 4:20:27 AM PST by Fred Nerks (Understand Islam. Read the Biography THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD. pdf link on My Page)
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They are cockpit breaching devices.

Bingo.

15 posted on 02/11/2006 4:28:44 AM PST by Dog
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To: Lazamataz

I believe our entire species has been diminished by the actions of the barbarians living amongst us.
I am watching the opening of the Winter Olympics, remembering the Israeli athletes murdered in Munich...and I am wondering, how many more have died since then as the result of the cult of muhammad?


16 posted on 02/11/2006 4:55:54 AM PST by Fred Nerks (Understand Islam. Read the Biography THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD. pdf link on My Page)
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To: Straight Vermonter; Fred Nerks

Thanks a lot for the ping.

Thanks for the article - informative, educational.


17 posted on 02/11/2006 4:57:51 AM PST by PGalt
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To: Fred Nerks; TexasTransplant

>>I know what you mean. I'm just a bit cranky at the insinuations from the left that the statement was made simply as a scare tactic.

Bingo. On the one hand, I see Lefties whining that the threat isn't all that serious, we are overreacting with taps of international calls, etc. Then when we reveal something, that was long enough ago that we aren't affecting current intelligence efforts, that shows that the threats are serious, it gets poo-pooed and used in an attempt to make political points.


18 posted on 02/11/2006 5:12:01 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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Hamblen, Hambli, Hamblu, hey it's easy to misread headlines...

aka Riduan Issamuddin

19 posted on 02/11/2006 5:20:01 AM PST by Cboldt
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I'm just a bit cranky at the insinuations from the left that the statement was made simply as a scare tactic.

To get really cranky, check out some of the left's stories relating to Nuradin Abdi.

20 posted on 02/11/2006 5:24:43 AM PST by Cboldt
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