Posted on 11/05/2006 2:06:18 AM PST by MadIvan
I don't think we have anything to worry about. China can pour all the money they want down Mugabe's rat hole and it will remain a rat hole. The "money to refurbish the stadium" is a clear indication of this. Talk about a waste of money. If they really wanted a return on their investment they would sink money into roads and actual useful infrastructure. But then Communists have never been smart. They are sinking money into a country with an economy that is shrinking on an average of 8% a year.
On the other hand India is investing in Kenya and Tanzania where the economy is expanding on the average of 6% a year.
The smart money is on India.
And you are doing exactly that.
China is showing vast stupidity by supporting Mugabe and Bashir. There were plenty of other places that they could have invested time and money and gotten a far better return but like to like and China has an affinity for murderous thugs that will come back to bite them.
Somehow the murderous thugs are always on the other side
I will give you example. During Reagan administration Iraq attacked and waged bloody war against Iran. Iranians were bad guys and Iraqis were the good guys.
At that time Iran accused Iraq of using poison gas. It was dismissed as an Iranian propaganda. After Iraq invaded Kuwait and fell out of favor, the criminal use of poison gas and other Iranian accusations became the absolute truth.
Don't you find it a little confusing? Or is your thinking so flexible that it always matches the official and changing position, even about the past events?
Iraq was never the good guys something easily shown by their being armed by the USSR, China and france all open supporters of bloody tyrants.
Of course maybe to you they were the good guys.
Do you remember how US navy was sent to protect Iraqis? (It was when the Iranian airliner was shot down).
They were not sent to protect Iraqis they were there to protect Kuwaiti oil tankers and keep the Strait of Hormuz open.
I know that you and Saddam have a tendency to think that Kuwaiti is part of Iraq but they are separate countries.
Do you have any more faux-history you would like to pull out?
"China is showing vast stupidity by supporting Mugabe and Bashir."
You mean like the US did with Saddam, Castro and countless other dictators?
As A. Pole has already stated, the Chinese are very pragmatic and unlike the US, their moves are very calculated with a great deal of thought given to the long-term future.
I wouldn't say the Chinese are being stupid at all. There's obviously something they want and apparently they're getting it.
Iraq was allowed to put Kuwaiti and other foreign flags on Iraqi tankers.
I will remind you another detail. Do you remember how USS Stark was attacked by Iraq on May 17 1987 what resulted in 37 deaths? Somehow the bias against Iran was so strong that this attack was disregarded. Don't you find this amazing?
Now if the USS Stark was sunk without survivors, how likely is that Iran would be blamed?
Go back to the history books. Look for transculturations - the many failed attempts [start with the Katyn Forest massacre - it is the easiest one to analyse, everything is on the surface] and the two large scale successes [even then the degree of success is somewhat dubious] - early expansion of Islam and the creation of Spanish colonial empire in South America. Both were genocidal. This would give you an idea of the depth of scouring required.
I can not only dismiss it but laugh at it.
If China wishes to pour money down that rat hole that is their business.
The Chinese ARE building roads and other useful infrastructure like generators, schools and satellite communication networks.
Not.
Chinese money is going into swiss bank accounts except for a few projects like the mad one's palaces.
It will be fascinating to see what happens when he falls. China will find it's self out in the cold again.
Irrelevant. That was between Iraq and who ever else. Not us.
Now if the USS Stark was sunk without survivors, how likely is that Iran would be blamed?
You have now moved from fact into the realm of wild speculation.
China needs the mineral resources of southern Africa (South Africa and Zimbabwe). China does NOT need the Africans. They have millions of excess peasants who can come over and work the mines and the farms. The Africans will then be treated like the American Indians: driven off or killed
In exchange for being the figurehead who allows this, Mugabe will be allowed to retire to a nice estate in China, and will bring along all the women he wants to grab
More faux-history.
It is amazing that how the defenders of Communist regimes all have the same talking points.
Now there is a far more likely scenario then the "benevolent Chinese" being pushed by many.
Mao killed somewhere in the neighborhood of 100 million Chinese during his rule. South Africa has a population of just 44 million. Genocide on that scale is well within Chinese capability
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.