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Chief Red Cloud to Obama: Black Hills are not for sale
Atlantic Free Press ^ | 11-9-09 | Brenda Norrell

Posted on 11/09/2009 6:37:49 PM PST by SJackson

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To: LucyT

As much as I respect the Lakota/Nakota/Dakota tribes, they are not getting my 40 acres in the middle of the Black Hills.

Times change, and they must with them.


21 posted on 11/09/2009 6:57:58 PM PST by Rushmore Rocks (Dollar a Day Member..............Free Republic is not Free!)
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To: SJackson

In 1776 the Sioux defeated the Cheyenne in war and took the Black Hills from them.

About 100 years later the US did the same to the Sioux.

Why does the first conquest confer legitimate title and the second doesn’t?


22 posted on 11/09/2009 6:59:08 PM PST by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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To: smokingfrog

Lakota theology in general has everyone getting along in the end. They have moral arguments (IMO) for the terms of the 1868 treaty, but the legalism gives the advantage to the USA. I have long thought that the settler portions that were passed after the last hostilities were the weakest portions of the US’s case and apparently so does the government since the USDA has a program that reverses the land claim issue with low interest loans for Indians to reclaim reservation land. My advice to the Indians, move on after securing property rights.


23 posted on 11/09/2009 6:59:15 PM PST by junta (S.C.U.M. = State Controlled Unreliable Media)
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To: HereInTheHeartland; muleskinner
Tribal leaders ready for Obama meeting. Apparently Bill Bradley suggested we return 1.3 million acres of federal land to the tribes back in the early 80s.

In the mid-1980s, New Jersey Democratic Sen. Bill Bradley proposed that the U.S. government return 1.3 million acres of federal forests and unoccupied park lands in the Black Hills. The idea went nowhere with Congress, but Obama's overture in Sioux Falls has created a renewed optimism.

They still have to wait their turn in line after General McCrystal.

24 posted on 11/09/2009 6:59:35 PM PST by SJackson (In wine there is wisdom, In beer there is freedom, In water there is bacteria.)
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To: piasa

Some would say the entire US was; but that’s a long argument. I am not giving up my home.


25 posted on 11/09/2009 6:59:58 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (The End of an Error - 01/20/2013)
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To: SJackson

Having Obama invite you to the White House is like getting invited to a slumber party by Jeffrey Dahmer.

I knew he was gonna shaft the Indians.


26 posted on 11/09/2009 7:01:57 PM PST by bvw
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To: HereInTheHeartland
Chief Red Cloud wants Obama to give them back the Black Hills? I would say no

The Black Hills are still legally theirs, by legal treaty.

Typical, illegal machinations by the gov't doesn't change that.

Indeed, MUCH more land, from the Canadian border to the southern, sill legally belong to the Native Americans - by our own treaties and Supreme Court rulings.

Not that they are honored by dishonorable politicians.

And now the gov't owns hundreds of thousands of peoples homes across America - through forced bank loans and Fanny and Freddie - Loans people couldn't really afford. They they - the gov't - deliberately deep sixes the economy - tens of thousands of homes go into bankruptcy and the so-called stimulus bill was supposed to avoid that. Guess what. None of that money went for that. Now the gov't owns the mortgages - which they will now take over and they are planning on letting the people RENT their houses from the gov't. Results, the go'vt is about to become the biggest landlord in the country. This has been the plan all along.

Do you think all those homes will EVER go back to private ownership? Hint: Under Marxism, the gov't owns everything.

i.e., we are all about to experience what the Native Americans have.

Enjoy your serfdom.

27 posted on 11/09/2009 7:05:11 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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To: SJackson

“I am 90 years old now.”

More incentive for Zero to procrastinate.


28 posted on 11/09/2009 7:06:48 PM PST by Rebelbase (This is the time of year when ACORNS fall.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Those “independent entities” would be a place from which some to ask for asylum, would they not?


29 posted on 11/09/2009 7:06:48 PM PST by madison10
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To: listenhillary

That’s an old picture. The monument is way beyond that stage now.


30 posted on 11/09/2009 7:07:12 PM PST by fish hawk (It's sad that science gathers knowledge faster than society gathers wisdom. Isaac Asimov)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Those “independent entities” would be a place from which some could ask for asylum, would they not?


31 posted on 11/09/2009 7:07:17 PM PST by madison10
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To: fish hawk

I wouldn’t know as I didn’t pay to get in when I went. I think it was almost twelve years ago since I was up that way.


32 posted on 11/09/2009 7:09:48 PM PST by listenhillary (A "cult of personality" arises when a leader uses mass media creating idealized/heroic public image)
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To: Sherman Logan

Let me guess: because the US gov. signed a treaty with the latter “ as long as the grasses grow and the rivers flow”. But of course everyone knows that the Gov. is a liar and it’s subjects don’t give a damn.


33 posted on 11/09/2009 7:10:47 PM PST by fish hawk (It's sad that science gathers knowledge faster than society gathers wisdom. Isaac Asimov)
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To: maine-iac7

No one was forced to buy a home or get a mortgage


34 posted on 11/09/2009 7:11:21 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (The End of an Error - 01/20/2013)
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To: SJackson

Chief Red Cloud as you know Barack Obama has been given the honor of being titled “Chief Walking Eagle” please address him this way from now on.

(The walking eagle is so full of crap it cannot fly.)


35 posted on 11/09/2009 7:13:23 PM PST by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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To: SJackson
I would too, but it's not clear to me exactly what the issue here is.

Baaken oil

36 posted on 11/09/2009 7:14:34 PM PST by fso301
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To: madison10

Oh, they could be quite the thorn in the side of an authoritarian central government.


37 posted on 11/09/2009 7:15:44 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: fish hawk

38 posted on 11/09/2009 7:18:10 PM PST by hellbender
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To: sailor4321
The Chief and his people must endeavor to persevere ...

I reckon so.

39 posted on 11/09/2009 7:21:55 PM PST by TangoLimaSierra (To the left the truth looks Right-Wing.)
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To: SJackson

40 posted on 11/09/2009 7:27:16 PM PST by Wiggins
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