Posted on 01/22/2019 6:18:09 AM PST by servo1969
>>Queers care only about queers. The church hierachy is thoroughly corrupted with queer leftists. The pope is pretty much a communist
The Martin Luther actions precipitating the reformation was acting against similar to the bone corruption<<
Well and truly said, and I’m a Cradle Catholic so I know whereof you speak!
Howe about the property being given to faithful, God-pleasing Catholics?
Or would that ruin your scenario?
No, that's not so. The Church is not the Mystical Body of the Pope or the Bishops. It is the Mystical Body of Christ.
It is the flock of the Good Shepherd.
To insinuate that the sheep are all dead or the sheep are all wolves, shows an inclination to abandon this flock, not to rescue it.
It was He who said the hirelings are those who run as soon as the wolves appear.
The good ones stand and fight.
Th truth of doctrine did not disappear when the Apostles themselves deserted Christ at Gethsemane.
“The catholic church is dead.”
No, that’s not so. The Church is not the Mystical Body of the Pope or the Bishops. It is the Mystical Body of Christ.
Let me make my argument in a different way. You can conceptualize the church as a whole lotta retailers of religious goods and services, among which I can shop around to find the one most satisfactory to what I'll call my religion-consumer needs. If that's right (which I don't say it is), then as soon as your church fails to deliver on your consumer-defined preferences, it's back to church-shopping. Out the door you go.
On the other hand, if the church is a Body (a truth taught repeatedly by St. Paul, and one which has long had real priority for me), then you don't heal it by severing yourself from it.
Paul says that when one part (or organ or limb or member) of the Body suffers, we all suffer, and when one part or member rejoices, we all rejoice.
So I don't think we're looking to heal the Church via amputating ourselves as separate healthy limbs cut off from the Body, if that were even possible.
On this analogy of the Church as Body, I say: heal the wounds. Fight the infections. Stay and fight.
The Catholic Archdiocese of Baltimore is no more Catholic than the fake pope is.
They need to find a religious order that doesn’t encourage pedophilia.
There were reasons for the Protestant movement.
Six things there are, which the Lord hateth, and the seventh his soul detesteth
“Once the number three, being the number of the counting, be reached, then lobbest thou the Holy Hand Grenade in the direction of thine foe, who, being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it.”
Aside: If you have never done so, pick up a nice copy of the Bible and read it cover to cover. I suggest, FWIW, that you get a Catholic Bible ... you wouldn't want to miss a great political intrigue thriller called "I Maccabees". You'll be surprised the extent to which Biblical language and Biblical concepts permeate our everyday speech.
Yep, the Bible and Shakespeare permeate our language with memes.
I went one step further. Forty years ago I read the Protestant Bible concurrent with a major commentary. It was very educational. I walked away with a solidified view that I hold to this day.
You missed Maccabees, then ... too bad. Awesome story.
However, for the last several years,I have been giving my Catholic charitable dime to LifeSite News, EWTN, andsimilar whistle-blowers.
In other words: don't just find the truth-tellers in the Church. Fund them. The rest, having cut themselves off the True Vine, will wither. The truth-tellers are the Catholic Church.
The Catholic Church, I suspect, has witnessed a downturn in their congregations. Too busy to check the numbers, but IMO, the priest molestations have signaled people to avoid the Catholic Church.
In order to attract new members, the Church has backed away from their traditional concepts of sin to reduce the appearance of judgementalism (”Judge not for you shall be judged”) It tells Catholics to say, “Yeah, she had an abortion, but who am I to judge?” This thinking misinterprets Matthew. It is not forbidding judgment but hypocrisy. It gives an excuse for the Church not to stand by their principles. I think for this reason, more people are leaving the church because it is failing to stand by the principles the people know to be true. The hypocrisy is pushing people away and the Church thinks it can loosen its principles even more. It cannot win with this dynamic and if it doesn’t pull itself together (which the Left hopes it won’t) we will see the Church sink to unpredictable depths.
What happens when those in the church body voice their objections and the hierarchy refuses to listen because they believe in giving an appearance of nonjudgementalism to attract new members? This moral stance gives an excuse for the Church not to stand by their principles. The church body that knows the moral truth will not stand by and accept this flawed policy. And they will not stand by and let their concerns be ignored.
Speak Truth To Hierarchy.
We have to make that habitual.
God, guide us and strengthen us.
From the hymn:
He will bear your spirit up
And brace your heart,
And nerve your arm.
However the Catholic Church as a whole has lost numbers in both America and Europe to the point where once robust congregations are now closing their doors and historic churches(at least locally) are being lost
The priest sex scandal is only the top of the iceberg problem for both Catholics and Protestant churches as both have both lost tremendous memberships, suffered sex scandals, embezzlement of church funds and out and out hijacking of the traditional Gospel to suit the political correctness of today.
For the record, I was raised as a Methodist with a mixture of Southern Presbyterian and Southern Baptists thrown in so I try to tread lightly when discussing faith, especially one that is not my own. I again must confess my own is quite heretical from my own early teachings as a child attending various churches but I believe more in line which the Old Testament and New Testament taught.(Yes, it is my thoughts through my own research through both biblical and historical texts I've come to this opinion, which I do not evangelize but believe for my own mind and soul )
I take no joy in the distress of any Christian sects as I think this is just as symptom of greater problems we face as a nation in the years ahead. All our great institutions are crumbling, some from vandalism from enemies wanting to destroy, some from ignorance and some from neglect but all are extremely troubling and a portent of things to come.
I don't know if these are the End Times and nor do I say I know that they are. However in my humble, uneducated opinion, this would be the events that lead up to those time prophesied in the Holy Bible.
The Book of Revelations disturbs my waking thoughts more and more.
Particularly Revelation 17.
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