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Scientists: Dishonest or Afraid?
Townhall.com ^ | November 20, 2019 | Walter E. Williams

Posted on 11/20/2019 4:49:16 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: rigelkentaurus

Michael Mann?


21 posted on 11/20/2019 5:18:00 AM PST by 3boysdad (The very elect.)
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To: Kaslin

I once saw a government RFP that stated something to the effect that proposals that didn’t include a discussion of climate change wouldn’t automatically be rejected.


22 posted on 11/20/2019 5:19:57 AM PST by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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To: Kaslin

Heller does a great job. He is a software engineer as well as a geologist and nature enthusiast. He is funded by donations by fans of his you tube channel and the like when he is not working as,an engineer.


23 posted on 11/20/2019 5:20:38 AM PST by AndyTheBear
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To: Telepathic Intruder

A few years back we here in Michigan were talking about how lake Michigan’s water levels were alarmingly low. Some people were citing “global warming” as the reason.

Now? We are talking about the high lake water levels.


24 posted on 11/20/2019 5:21:42 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: Kaslin

There are numerous historical examples of scientists kow towing to the prevailing religious, political and cultural winds. In Germany over one hundred of the most prominent German physicists signed a letter denouncing Einstein and his theory of relativity not on a scientific basis but because he was Jewish. In Russia, all biologists and geneticists had to praise and accept the bizarre theories of Lysenko who was Stalin’s favorite. In the United States medical scientists who challenge the prevailing nonsensical new orthodoxy regarding homosexuality and gender are harassed and punished.

Power and gold make the rules but cannot alter or establish truth.


25 posted on 11/20/2019 5:24:45 AM PST by allendale (.)
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To: Kaslin
If they had qualities such as integrity, professionalism, ethics and the like, they would follow the scientific method. Whatever theories were proven or dis-proven, conclusions reached...they would follow the data.

They obviously do not. The conclusions are reached, couched in the popular terms du-jour, and in accordance with the proclivities of the funding source. Then the data and methodology are manipulated to support that conclusion. They have abandoned the scientific method. They misuse and abuse computer modelling to the point that in "climate research" computer modeling is analogous to CGI support in making a movie - the script is written and the B-roll shot, just fill in the blanks...

This makes so-called "climate scientists" generally, in fact almost completely dishonest as a group. The few with any integrity left have apparently been summarily run out of the field. Thus the fear factor. Those who might actually want to do the right thing, explore real science in the field are afraid of being knocked out of the field if they do.

Chances are, if someone is an active "climate scientist" or "climate researcher" today, they are almost certainly both dishonest and afraid.

26 posted on 11/20/2019 5:31:14 AM PST by ThunderSleeps ( Be ready!)
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To: from occupied ga

Does the guy know the difference between a male and female? That is the important question facing our culture.


27 posted on 11/20/2019 5:32:39 AM PST by cnsmom
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To: Texas Eagle
Don't know...good question.

Looking at the Wikipedia entry (which I do more as entertainment than a search for the facts) it said this, which is archingly typical presentation by the Left:

"...Christopher C. Horner is an attorney in Washington, D.C. and a Senior Fellow at the Competitive Enterprise Institute who opposes the mainstream view of climate change and has been prominent in promoting climate change denial. He is the author of three books disputing the scientific evidence for man-made global warming. Horner had a financial relationship with coal companies who provided him with funds. Horner has been criticized for hounding climate scientists with frivolous requests for documentation and emails..."

28 posted on 11/20/2019 5:33:36 AM PST by rlmorel (Finding middle ground with tyranny or evil makes you either a tyrant or evil. Often both.)
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Ha haaaa!!! Frivolous requests for documentation!

"Documentation!? We don't need no stinking documentation!"

29 posted on 11/20/2019 5:36:17 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would be have noandards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Kaslin

I was reading about how ancient peoples would offer sacrifices in the winter to ensure the onset of spring. These sacrifices were often costly and, if spring didn’t arrive, would put their survival in jeopardy.

If spring always arrived, wouldn’t the sacrifice be unnecessary?

The point being, spring didn’t always arrive. There have been times in the past where it stayed cold, whether due to volcanic eruptions putting ash in the air and causing the earth to cool, or possibly asteroid strikes doing something similar.

The “climate” of the earth has always been in flux. Using only the past couple of hundred of years as a baseline, as some measure of perfection that needs to be maintained, is folly.

We would be much better served using our technology to prepare for and deal with inevitable swings in our temperature, instead of trying to prevent them.


30 posted on 11/20/2019 5:38:46 AM PST by Crusher138 ("Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just")
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To: Texas Eagle

Yeah...that made me laugh too. Given the way Christopher Horner wrote his book, I suspect it made him laugh a little as well to read that.

He started his book by talking how the Leftists rifle his trash he leaves out looking for any links to the petroleum industry, sexual relations with other men, or any other negative information, and when he talked to another like-minded significant person, and they both had a laugh when the other guy revealed his trash was being rifled as well!


31 posted on 11/20/2019 5:42:37 AM PST by rlmorel (Finding middle ground with tyranny or evil makes you either a tyrant or evil. Often both.)
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To: Texas Eagle

If the government changed to paying people to find there is no warming, what would happen to the results from all these “climate scientists”?


32 posted on 11/20/2019 5:42:55 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: I want the USA back
he Scientific American, a magazine that was once a respected, real science magazine, has become a liberal rag.

Yes, and the transition from science to propaganda started a long time ago too. I had a subscription in the early 60's but let it drop in the mid 60's because their BS has started even back then.

33 posted on 11/20/2019 5:44:50 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
If the government changed to paying people to find there is no warming, what would happen to the results from all these “climate scientists”?

Whoa.

34 posted on 11/20/2019 5:45:28 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would be have noandards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: cnsmom
Does the guy know the difference between a male and female? That is the important question facing our culture

Which reminds me of an old joke:

What's the difference between a snowman and a snowwoman?

35 posted on 11/20/2019 5:47:43 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would be have noandards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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"One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. Instead, climate change policy is about how we redistribute de facto the world's wealth."

Follow the money.
In almost every case in today's world, follow the money.

36 posted on 11/20/2019 5:49:19 AM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Texas Eagle

Snowballs. Or melting rate.


37 posted on 11/20/2019 5:57:48 AM PST by cnsmom
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To: cnsmom

Heh, heh.


38 posted on 11/20/2019 5:59:07 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would be have noandards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: allendale

Just be forewarned. Lysenkoism is coming back and will be the cudgel used against Intelligent Design. Especially when looked at through the lens of Epigenetics and Lamarckism.


39 posted on 11/20/2019 6:44:14 AM PST by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: Kaslin
From the article. "Not all scientists are dishonest and not all news reporters are leftists with an agenda."

But that's the way to bet.

40 posted on 11/20/2019 7:20:40 AM PST by jonascord (First rule of the Dunning-Kruger Club is that you do not know you are in the Dunning-Kruger club.)
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