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River Oaks Man Identified as Gunman in White Settlement Church Shooting
nbcfw ^ | Dec, 30, 2019, | Scott Gordon

Posted on 12/30/2019 11:44:10 AM PST by Morgana

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To: Deaf Smith
Why did the fbi have prior contact with the shooter and why was the fbi on the scene yesterday?

The FBI didn't have this nut-job on their radar, from what I read.

But I'll bet they were watching the 2A Christians pretty closely.

Just ask them - they'll tell you those guys are the biggest terrorist threat today.

21 posted on 12/30/2019 12:28:38 PM PST by Fido969 (In!)
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To: Deaf Smith; Grampa Dave; MadMax, the Grinning Reaper; Liz
Here's your answer right here:

Kinnunen also was arrested in September 2016 for possession of an illegal weapon in Linden, New Jersey, after he was found taking pictures outside an oil refinery, according to news reports at the time. An article on the news website mycentraljersey.com reported that Kinnunen said he was traveling from Texas, was homeless and was taking photos of “interesting sites.”

22 posted on 12/30/2019 12:39:40 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: livius

He was arrested in NJ for having a mossberg, probably the same gun he carried out the attack with.


23 posted on 12/30/2019 12:42:47 PM PST by struggle
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To: piasa

The refinery he was interested in was in New Jersey. That’s interesting since this guy has a Jersey connection, too:

Suspected Hezbollah spy scouted targets in New York, other major cities: prosecutors
fox news ^ | 9/19/2019 | melissa leon
Posted on 9/20/2019, 12:47:30 AM by bitt
A New Jersey man is accused of being a secret Hezbollah operative in the United States for more than a decade, surveilling potential attack sites in New York City, Boston and Washington, prosecutors said Thursday.
Alexei Saab, 42, from Morristown, was charged under a nine-count indictment in connection with a range of alleged terror activities. They included providing material support to a designated foreign terrorist organization (FTO) and receiving military-style training from that group, the Justice Department said.
“Even though Saab was a naturalized American citizen, his true allegiance was to Hezbollah, the terrorist organization responsible for decades of terrorist attacks that have killed hundreds, including U.S. citizens and military personnel,” U.S. Attorney Geoffrey S. Berman said. “Thankfully, Saab is now in federal custody and faces significant prison time for his alleged crimes.”
Saab allegedly surveilled dozens of locations throughout New York City, including the Empire State Building, Rockefeller Center, the Statue of Liberty, Times Square and United Nations headquarters, prosecutors said.
He also scouted various bridges, tunnels and airports, specifically focusing on “the structural weaknesses of locations he surveilled in order to determine how a future attack could cause the most destruction,” the Justice Department said.
(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


24 posted on 12/30/2019 12:43:00 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: Scrambler Bob

Motive? You forgot islam.


25 posted on 12/30/2019 12:47:07 PM PST by Enten (I don't have islamophobia...I do have islamonausea)
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To: 2banana

I’m sure that if the government succeeds in disarming law abiding citizens they will be able to keep thousands of illegal guns from flooding across our borders just like they keep millions of illegal aliens from walking across the border and thousands of tons of illegal drugs crossing our....oh wait....


26 posted on 12/30/2019 12:54:30 PM PST by antidemoncrat
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To: Morgana

So ... apparently, he trained some of the people in this church to shoot a firearm? Maybe he was suicidal but too cowardly to do it himself and went to a place where he knew he’d be killed?


27 posted on 12/30/2019 12:57:46 PM PST by al_c (Democrats: Party over Common Sense)
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To: Morgana

I looked this guy up on publicdata.com. He was charged in 2008 with a 2nd degree felony for Aggravated assault with a deadly weapon. I think the prosecutor changed the charge to deadly conduct, a class A misdemeanor. Sometimes it’s not very clear on public data the timeline and charges.


28 posted on 12/30/2019 12:58:22 PM PST by tuffydoodle (God's character and moral nature are absolute, eternal, and unchanging.)
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To: 2banana

“pulled a shotgun from his clothing...”

How does one conceal even a sawed off shotgun?

Clever demon.


29 posted on 12/30/2019 1:03:37 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: al_c

Where’d you get that? No, the good guy who shot the perp in the head is the owner of a firearms training business and who was involved in forming the church’s volunteer security team.


30 posted on 12/30/2019 1:06:52 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: piasa

I googled his name. That was one of the stories that came up.


31 posted on 12/30/2019 1:07:44 PM PST by al_c (Democrats: Party over Common Sense)
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To: Mariner
How does one conceal even a sawed off shotgun?

He was wearing a long coat.

32 posted on 12/30/2019 1:07:59 PM PST by WXRGina
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To: al_c

Uh it was Jack Wilson the guy who shot the killer that had trained the ithers. Not the killet
GEESH


33 posted on 12/30/2019 1:10:17 PM PST by RWGinger (Does anyone else really)
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To: RWGinger

Well, ain’t I the idiot.


34 posted on 12/30/2019 1:12:26 PM PST by al_c (Democrats: Party over Common Sense)
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To: Enten

When I hear about an Alexei Saab who is an immigrant Arab Muslim who is a US citizen working for Hezbollah for at least 15 years who was caught at an American airport with a dangerous weapon, I think this is what our CIA should be doing: Disappearing these people into incinerators then into pigstys.


35 posted on 12/30/2019 1:12:43 PM PST by namvolunteer (Obama says the US is subservient to the UN and the Constitution does not apply. That is treason.9we)
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To: al_c

This is not true!

As usual the media flubs

It was the hero who owns a gun range., where folks learn how to shoot........NOT the perp


36 posted on 12/30/2019 1:12:44 PM PST by Guenevere (Psalm 37)
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To: Guenevere

Nah ... wasn’t the media. It was me getting my stories mixed up.


37 posted on 12/30/2019 1:14:02 PM PST by al_c (Democrats: Party over Common Sense)
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To: Guenevere

Hmm ... maybe it wasn’t me after all.
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3804394/posts
Glad they withdrew the story.


38 posted on 12/30/2019 1:15:53 PM PST by al_c (Democrats: Party over Common Sense)
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To: al_c

No
You just got bad information.


39 posted on 12/30/2019 1:22:07 PM PST by RWGinger (Does anyone else really)
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To: RWGinger

Yeah ... thought I was going nuts for a minute there. (whew!)


40 posted on 12/30/2019 1:31:10 PM PST by al_c (Democrats: Party over Common Sense)
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