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How Right to Repair Thwarts Free Enterprise
Townhall.com ^ | June 17, 2021 | Brian Darling

Posted on 06/17/2021 5:45:50 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: old-ager; Kaslin
Kaslin, are you a secret moderator here?

The first rule of moderator club is nobody talks about moderator club.

21 posted on 06/17/2021 6:30:45 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Who is John Galt and is he vaccinated?)
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To: elteemike

” seeking access to diagnostic software “

kind of like the universal OBD system for automobiles.

Plug in a $10 scanner and up pops some codes for further investigation. Or spend a few bucks and get a Diagnostic machine with upgradeability.

OWNERS that have PURCHASED hundreds of thousands worth of equipment might want to take a peak before they commit to further efforts.


22 posted on 06/17/2021 6:31:30 AM PDT by Macoozie (Handcuffs and Orange Jumpsuitss)
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To: BipolarBob; All

Either there’s an overzealous newbie or the esteemed proprietor meant business about the S word, or both!


23 posted on 06/17/2021 6:34:15 AM PDT by old-ager (anti-new-ager)
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To: Kaslin
I might agree with OP's original thesis if I didn't witness first-hand the basic problem with the lack of right-to-repair: waste. I have a MacBook. It has a cracked screen. I took it to the Apple store to have the screen replaced. "Sorry, that MacBook is no longer supported by us. Buy a new laptop. You should, anyway."

Why? It's perfect for my needs, and doing the upgrade would contribute to the growing mound of electronic waste. Not to mention the added cost.

As for John Deere, my grandparents were farmers. They would fix their own equipment, because when the crops are ready to harvest you can't wait just because something broke. Yet we have farm equipment manufacturers who don't understand their customers' needs.

If you were to say that John Deere had a fleet of service technicians that would go on-site to fix their product, I would agree that it reduces the need for right-to-repair. They don't.

24 posted on 06/17/2021 7:09:37 AM PDT by asinclair (Political hot air is a renewable energy resource)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

Tesla does the same thing to their cars. You can get a horsepower upgrade over the internet with a $10K software upgrade.


25 posted on 06/17/2021 7:12:50 AM PDT by RainMan (Democrats ... making war against America since April 12, 1861)
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To: Kaslin

Some years back, I bought a VGA monitor and video card. The sales guy asked me if I wanted it with or without a TV tuner. I got it without. About 6 years later, I needed a new driver for it and downloaded the driver from one of the many driver sites. Low and behold, when it booted up, I had a TV tuner.


26 posted on 06/17/2021 7:14:36 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Neither safety nor security exist in nature. Everything is dangerous and has risk.)
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To: T.B. Yoits
It's a tough decision but there are protection laws to prevent someone who wants to purchase product A from also having to purchase product B in order to use product A.

I am 100% ignorant on this. That said, why is it that I have to buy product B (a game cartridge) to use product A (a Nintendo Switch)? Perfectly legal, right?

27 posted on 06/17/2021 7:16:25 AM PDT by Mr.Unique
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To: Kaslin
Intellectual property is a legal creation, exactly what it is, who owns it, etc. IP vultures became a blight on the landscape as everyone tried to buy up every idea around and claim he had exclusive rights to it. The whole point of IP is to reward authors and inventors. It is not to create a system of rent-seeking Rhine Barons who control if and when and how much you are going to pay for their claimed IP with onerous penalties and legal bills if you choose to go to court and lose. Every musician knows he is supposed to purchase a legitimate copy of the music he plays and has to purchase public performance rights to reward the gal who wrote the piece he is going to play. But that doesn't mean a Paul Allen has to be paid because he got a patent on middle-C out of the patent office.

Through the legislative process the public gets to decide what IP right are and how they should be protected.

28 posted on 06/17/2021 7:27:28 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: old-ager
"Kaslin, are you a secret moderator here?

It would not surprise me.

29 posted on 06/17/2021 7:47:24 AM PDT by wildcard_redneck ( COVID lockdowns are the Establishment's attack on the middle class and our Republic )
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To: Kaslin

Talking about medical device suppliers, the one my health insurance company uses for CPAP has so much business funneled its way that they are completely useless. It took months to get the machine and after that I just don’t go over there. Haven’t been there in 5 years. I can order the tubes and face masks and nose pillows on eBay. The only thing I can’t do is change the pressure settings. Fortunately I don’t need to do that. But the fact that CPAP is only available by prescription really works in their favor. I had to deal with them up to a point but after that I figured out I was better off on my own.


30 posted on 06/17/2021 8:03:44 AM PDT by webheart (I already had COVID disease and 2 vaccine shots Can I take the mask off now?)
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To: Mr.Unique
That said, why is it that I have to buy product B (a game cartridge) to use product A (a Nintendo Switch)? Perfectly legal, right?

Close analogy but imagine having to buy a Nintendo TV to play your Nintendo game.

31 posted on 06/17/2021 8:17:12 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: Kaslin

“In these statehouses, lawmakers considered bills that would undermine innovator intellectual property rights by forcing manufacturers of sophisticated medical devices – from infusion pumps to PET systems - to make freely available propriety service manuals, schematics, training materials and to their third-party servicing business competitors. Government forcing a business to hand over intellectual property to competitors strikes at the heart of our free market system.”

This is common in federal anti trust suits.

In fact, in the Bell System breakup, direct competitors were given access to the Bell infrastructure, which Bell had to sell at cost to them. They had to provide all technical standards so that myriad 3rd parties could interconnect to, or provide maintenance for their equipment.

This also happens in most regulated monopolies like energy distribution. PG&E must provide access to their distribution system, and pay full retail for excess power generated by any household or business.

And it sucks across the board.


32 posted on 06/17/2021 8:27:31 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: cymbeline
My wife hasn't mastered use of a clutch/shifter on a conventional motorcycle. She started with a Vespa LX150, moved up to a Piaggio BV500. I finally purchased a Honda CTX-700 for her (DCT, twist and go).

In the intervening years, the LX150 has been sold, but the BV500 remains. It is due for basic service/adjustment. The problem is the Piaggio dealer went out of business. The only trained/certified mechanic in eastern Idaho now works at a motorsports business (Suzuki/Honda/KTM/CanAm). He is prohibited by his employer from doing any service work on Piaggio bikes. I'm going to have to order a repair manual and determine if replacement parts are even available before pursuing an service work.

Back to the LX150...I put it on consignment at a local motorcycle dealer. He left the "master" key dangling in the ignition. It was stolen by a child visiting the shop. I had to order a replacement master key, new lock cores for the seat and ignition and a new ignition module to pair with the new master key. Parts alone were $300. The labor was my problem. An "E" string from the local music shop allowed me to pop the seat. Swapping the lock core was just pulling a "C" clip, pushing out the old core and pushing in a new one. The ignition was a totally different problem. It uses a double sided wafer lock. I removed it and engaged a local locksmith to "pick it" to remove the core. 4 hours later, they gave up. The kept asking for the key...no $#|+...I wouldn't be here if I had the damn key. I returned to the bike shop with the ignition switch still occupied with the old core. Finally, I tracked down two large paper clips. It took me 20 minutes to pick the wafers and rotate the core to capture the pin box. The parts kit included the "follower" to push out the core and keep the pin box depressed. Minutes later, the new core was in place. I mounted the ignition switch, swapped out the ignition module, paired the key with the module. Voila! Done. The LX150 was sold the next day. Reality is hard.

33 posted on 06/17/2021 8:28:11 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin

“reality is hard”

The good news: you got the LX150 fixed and sold.

Maybe you can get a non-Piaggio outfit to do the routine service/adjustment, or do it yourself?? Maybe there are youtube videos that would be helpful.


34 posted on 06/17/2021 8:40:31 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: elteemike; asinclair; PAR35
Farmers Fight John Deere Over Who Gets to Fix an $800,000 Mar 5, 2020

Kenney leads a grassroots campaign in the heart of the heartland to restore a fundamental right most people don’t realize they’ve lost—the right to repair their own farm

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>Farmers Are Having to Hack Their Own Tractors Just to Make ... https://www.thedrive.com › News Feb 9, 2021 — Owners are turning to hacked software from Eastern Europe as farm equipment ...

35 posted on 06/17/2021 8:48:09 AM PDT by daniel1212 (uir)
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To: throwthebumsout
It is good to see that so many comments have been removed. This tells me that Freepers are not deceived by the shameless shilling of useful idiots like Brian Darling.

Right-to-Repair is the America First position. Trusting large corporations to be responsible corporate citizens hasn't been working out lately. I am certain that most of the removed comments were choice examples of Anglo-Saxon aimed at Darling.

Louis Rossman is a hero. Brian Darling is a zero.

36 posted on 06/17/2021 9:04:10 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (This is not a tagline.)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
Right-to-Repair is the America First position. Trusting large corporations to be responsible corporate citizens hasn't been working out lately.

Amen to that. The astroturf tells you everything you need to know.

37 posted on 06/17/2021 9:07:45 AM PDT by no-s (Soap box, ballot box, jury box, cartridge box...you know how it goes...)
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To: Kaslin

This is bullshit. The oligarchy merely wants to protect the eternal revenue streams for certain industries.


38 posted on 06/17/2021 9:11:41 AM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: AndyJackson
Through the legislative process the public gets to decide what IP right are and how they should be protected.

Yeah, that's the theory. in actual practice, the biggest donors buy whatever legislation they can afford.

Thankfully, patent law isn't quite as utterly broken and insane as copyright law is. Yet.

39 posted on 06/17/2021 9:20:09 AM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: Kaslin

they don’t want you working on stuff at all.

even without their manuals...


40 posted on 06/17/2021 9:47:04 AM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. P144:1)
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