Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Scientists discover a massive field of nuclear silos in China, signaling a significant nuclear expansion in the country
Insider.com ^ | July 27th, 2021 | Vanessa Gu

Posted on 07/27/2021 3:59:09 PM PDT by Mariner

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-43 next last
To: Mariner

And so? How are you going to get anything from the sclerotic DOD. acquisition process and the even more sclerotic Department of Energy that must provide the nuclear warheads?


21 posted on 07/27/2021 4:54:27 PM PDT by AndyJackson
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Mariner

Remember, this is not your grandfather’s MIC. It is the Bush Cheney RINO DeepState MIC that just does inside the beltway consulting work. We will bury the Chinese in powerpoint.


22 posted on 07/27/2021 4:56:52 PM PDT by AndyJackson
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Mariner

We have the Clintons to thank for this. Loral was cleared to give China the missile tech necessary to do this.


23 posted on 07/27/2021 4:57:45 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Mariner

I was a student of a EE instructor who had a Pershing II nose cone in his office. He helped develop it and helped destroy them so he kept a nose cone as a souvenir.


24 posted on 07/27/2021 5:01:14 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (“Unlimited power in the hands of limited people always leads to cruelty.” ― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: butlerweave
When finished they’ll threaten everyone like the fat kid wanting everyone’s lunch money

Fat kid - N.Korea's Kim Jung-Un? But yeah, China is threatening every nation these days.

25 posted on 07/27/2021 5:07:22 PM PDT by roadcat
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Seruzawa
Whether or not there will be missiles in them is another question.

They only have to load a few of them.

26 posted on 07/27/2021 5:08:19 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Mariner

So, am I to understand that scientists own the spy satellites rather than the CIA, or NRO?


27 posted on 07/27/2021 5:13:43 PM PDT by GingisK
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Mariner

Is a missile like that fielded?

Answer: No.


28 posted on 07/27/2021 5:35:19 PM PDT by sauropod (Amateurs built the ark; Professionals built the Titanic. Anon)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: butlerweave

I’m sure some of our stuff registers on the Richter scale.


29 posted on 07/27/2021 5:37:19 PM PDT by Track9 (Dealing with democrats is like living without toilet paper. )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Mariner

Yeah, a bored college student originally found them. I read that a couple weeks ago.


30 posted on 07/27/2021 5:48:59 PM PDT by Tacrolimus1mg (Do no harm, but take no sh!t.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Mariner

Any war with China will result with the country being broken up into 20 regional nations, many with nuclear weapons just as had happened in 1990 with the Soviet Union. There are leaders in every regional province talking with the CIA and White House to ensure their rise to power post-China. Maybe even the Uger’s will get their homeland back as a new nation. Taiwan will become the leadership model these nations will follow.


31 posted on 07/27/2021 5:52:03 PM PDT by Jumper
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Mariner

Scientists discover??

WTH is the military doing?


32 posted on 07/27/2021 6:35:00 PM PDT by logitech
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Mariner

Are these the same “scientists” we ‘trust’ about everything Covid?


33 posted on 07/27/2021 6:48:28 PM PDT by Donkey Odious ( Adapt, improvise, and overcome - now a motto for us all.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Mariner
Deterrence-is-the-art-of-producing-in-the-mind-of-the-enemy-the-FEAR-to-attack
34 posted on 07/27/2021 7:28:09 PM PDT by The Louiswu (Peace to you and may God Bless you.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Mariner
"The US has a PROVEN strategy on how to handle such hubris."

Sorry! That is incorrect...
Group masturbation, balkanization, & drugs is not the strategy with which the U.S. handled the almost identical situation in Asia during the 1930's...

Unfortunately, America does not even remotely possess the population psychology, manufacturing infrastructure, and natural resources that it had in 1941...
All of which made defeating the Asian tyrant possible...

35 posted on 07/27/2021 8:22:55 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another Sam Adams now that we desperately need him?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SuperLuminal

Seems you believe the worst possible state for US capabilities.

You want it. Hell, you need it.

It’s emotional candy for you.

Just like a 12 year old girl.


36 posted on 07/27/2021 8:46:43 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: Seruzawa
Putin's got all sorts of cool decoys to play with! China just went with something bigger.

https://www.rusbal.ru/en/decoys/radar-decoys
37 posted on 07/27/2021 9:18:39 PM PDT by Svartalfiar
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: SuperLuminal
"Unfortunately, America does not even remotely possess the population psychology, manufacturing infrastructure, and natural resources that it had in 1941...

What part of that statement is not true?

So you are implying that the Americans are a united, freedom-loving, and patriotic population willing to sacrifice their lives to defeat China?

So you are implying that the America has:

Clearly you need a better brand of LSD... /s

38 posted on 07/28/2021 1:37:31 AM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another Sam Adams now that we desperately need him?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: Seruzawa

Further information:
Whether or not the silos end up having missiles in them will be discovered later. They are being built to house the land version of the road mobile DF-41. Currently unclassified data indicates they have 26 of that type of road mobile missile. The range is around 7200-9600 miles, each has 10 MIRVed warheads, yielding a dialed 20-150kT for each missile or 1 one megaton warhead.

Fully MIRVed, they account for 260 nuclear warheads. Lift weight of each missile is about 5600 lbs. With the addition of 110 new silos and fully MIRVed DF-41s, it will give China 1,360 warheads; that is not counting any nuclear missiles aboard their 3-4 boomers or air launched from its H-20, H-6 or older bombers. (START limits the US and Russia to 1,550 warheads each). It is easy to conclude that with those additions, China has reached or exceeded parity with the US and Russia on that number of warheads.

Where the missiles are located puts them too far away for THAADs (terminal stage) to hit - not designed to hit ICBMS. However, with the deployment of SM-3 Block 2 (RIM-161D) missiles aboard Aegis destroyers, there is a good chance of hitting those Chinese missiles, the only caveats are there has to be at least 2,720 RIM-161Ds available, assuming 2 are launched against each DF-41 and the ships have to be in the right positions. I think that the destroyers have 96 cells each with 4 missiles. But, there is usually a mix so they are not all RIM-161Ds.

In any case, there needs to be 680 cells with RIM-161D. Bad news is there has to be at least 7 Aegis Pacific Fleet destroyers of the 16 at the correct intercept location. In reality, with the fate of mainland US at stake, they would shoot 3-4 and every incoming and hopefully the other destroyers are in the right locations to shoot also.


39 posted on 07/28/2021 5:29:59 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Mariner
In addition:
China Increasing Its Intercontinental Ballistic Missile Silos By A Factor Of Ten: Report
A new ICBM silo field taking shape in the northwest of the country is the second to be identified in only a month.
By Thomas Newdick July 27, 2021
40 posted on 07/28/2021 5:58:00 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-43 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson