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The Labor Shortage Will Get Worse and May Last for Decades
Barrons ^ | September 2, 2022 | Megan Cassella

Posted on 09/05/2022 1:38:12 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie

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To: Keyhopper

What happens when we replace judges, lawyers, and the jury with AI,,.


I doubt that will happen, at least in this country. Lawyers won’t do anything to decrease their numbers. And I think people would get upset too.

However, robocops of some sort would not surprise me.


61 posted on 09/05/2022 2:45:19 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: The_Media_never_lie

If the government wants to fill potential employments needs from immigration, force employers to use the legal immigration system and punish employers who hire the illegal aliens. That might help slow down the southern invasion.


62 posted on 09/05/2022 2:51:53 PM PDT by elpadre (W )
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To: asinclair
"Learn to code" says the "experts." I already know how to code, been doing it for 50 years, but not the right kind of coding that employers want now. Glad I learned how to write: lots more jobs there.

I have a friend who is a developer, writer and tech support person. She went to Microsoft and wrote lots of documentation for them. She created the interface between the browser and Outlook mail and Microsoft literally stole it. The hire to write docs was a fair in-kind resolution for her. After a spat with a co-worker, she decided to move to Australia and became a citizen there. She writes documentation for US companies including analyzing software they don't understand and writing docs for their developers who haven't a clue without docs. That might me a niche you could leverage as well.

I've made good use of my development skills to be a better technical manager. It is helpful when writing clear tasks in JIRA with concisely spelled out requirements and conditions of satisfaction to call the task done.

I have to cobble up some CEUs for my Security+ certs before April 2023. CompTIA has a deal for $199 to do self-paced training. Estimated time to complete is 8 to 10 hours. It covers your CEUs for another 3 year increment. I'll be 69 at that point.

63 posted on 09/05/2022 2:53:10 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

Tennessee has a program where your worker’s comp costs less if you drug test. Almost all employers here test.


64 posted on 09/05/2022 2:55:25 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Too many lazy a$$e$ getting paid to not work.

Here, we do not have a smaller pool of workers than before Covid; but we certainly now have a scarcity of those same people wanting to work. It is devastating local small businesses.

Regardless of how much they keep raising starting wages, now nearly double minimum for no experience, the jobs the used to have are going begging, while they sit on their butts collecting government largess.


65 posted on 09/05/2022 2:58:33 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!)
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To: rbg81
As you know, there is lots of age discrimination in the software industry. The reason for it are as follows: — An older person won’t work as hard — they will be especially relunctant to participate on a “Death March” coding project — Not as flexible when it comes to new languages, tools and paradigms — Unrealistic salary expectatios — Fear that they will quit or retire in the middle of a project — Concern that they won’t “bond” with the younger workers. Or won’t like be told to do by someone the age of their child (or even grandchild)

I'm 66. Still putting in 40 to 60 hours each week. I can work in multiple operating systems, code in nearly 50 languages and build in a range from embedded to cloud. My managers throw the difficult stuff at me to work out the difficult details. Once the development has moved to fleshing out functionality, I pass it along to the junior programmers.

I'm toying with retirement at the end of this year, but my current tasking is going to jump right in doing AI/ML. I'm building sensor links with complex data comm protocols right now and stuffing data into a PostGIS/PostgreSQL database ahead of making a data lake solution. I built all the geospatial queries last week, then a complex filter with configurable sampling window, N number of variables with a threshold level and max calculation across each data sampling window. Too much fun to retire as long as the customer keeps the work coming. Kubernetes pods coordinated with Helm charts to spin-up an environment.

I have lower cost juniors paired with me so that I can spin them up on new tech. Sometimes it takes a bit of patience when they IM like kids on social media. As long as they are producing good, error free code, I can overlook some of that. I encourage them to be more formal in their writing as that raises prospects for invitation to write for proposals or do technical documentation.

Regarding death marches...that has been my specialty since 1980. Turning around a death march into a successful delivery. It's why I'm still doing that at 66.

66 posted on 09/05/2022 3:10:04 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: libertylover
She left out the biggest cause: laziness, partially caused by the government paying more in unemployment and welfare than having a job.


You know if she ever said that, she would be s#$%canned really fast.
67 posted on 09/05/2022 3:19:18 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Remember August 8!)
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To: Myrddin

Well, that is great — more power to you. But the poster who I replied to sounds like he is having trouble because of age discrimination.

There are certainly exceptions to every rule. However, I have personally dealt with older folks who DO have some of the issues I listed.

BTW — I am no spring chicken myself.


68 posted on 09/05/2022 3:25:17 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: Lazamataz

She has got Bat Shit Crazy eyes.


LOL. I’ve seen a LOT worse than that. At least she does not look like a Bull Dyke.


69 posted on 09/05/2022 3:26:34 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: caww

Crazy eyes!


70 posted on 09/05/2022 3:35:00 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Sometimes when you get to where you're supposed to be, it's too soon.)
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To: rbg81
I've long thought that they could replace most teachers with computer learning. And classroom workers to monitor the students to make sure the student's are doing the work. I bought my kids educational PC games when they were young. My daughter entered kindergarten reading at a 3rd grade 3rd trimester level. The beauty of computer learning is that well written programs

Disclaimer: My daughter is a high school history teacher and strongly disagrees with me. She pointed out just last week that a NASA rocket scientist was quoted as saying teaching is much harder than rocket science.

71 posted on 09/05/2022 3:45:26 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: caww

If you add in disability, and everyone else on a government check that pays them to stay home, no wonder. Many times I and other managers hear, well if I work more, they will cut my…. Insert freebie here.


72 posted on 09/05/2022 3:59:24 PM PDT by momincombatboots (QEphesians 6... who you are really at war with. )
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To: SaxxonWoods

Good points. I would add that in my experience immigrants, Mexicans else, generally have rudimentary if not advanced skills in construction or tool-making. If they don’t they have the motivation to get the skills. That’s a very big difference from the ghetto dwellers.


73 posted on 09/05/2022 4:01:17 PM PDT by Rural_Michigan
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To: Lazamataz

You need to put yourself on the market and get out of that craphole.

They clearly have no idea of your talent and no idea how hard it will be to replace you in this job market which is still very hot and with the available pool of people willing to work shrinking quickly, they’re about to find out.


74 posted on 09/05/2022 4:08:13 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative
You need to put yourself on the market and get out of that craphole. They clearly have no idea of your talent and no idea how hard it will be to replace you in this job market which is still very hot and with the available pool of people willing to work shrinking quickly, they’re about to find out.

Yeah.

75 posted on 09/05/2022 4:15:42 PM PDT by Lazamataz (The firearms I own today, are the firearms I will die with. How I die will be up to them.)
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To: Brian Griffin

Just stopped at one. Road sign said open till 8 on labor day..

Sign on the door said “sorry. No help showed up. Closed”


76 posted on 09/05/2022 4:22:42 PM PDT by cableguymn
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To: DannyTN

See the below clip. This version of “The Time Machine” is 20 years old now, but I thought it did a good job of showing the teaching potential of a Bot that had very sophisticated natural language understanding capabilities.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQbkhYg2DzM


77 posted on 09/05/2022 4:23:57 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: OldWarBaby

Productivity is dropping too.

They call it quiet quiting. Or “not my job” when asked to take on extra work.

Last guy I fired tried it. I paid him by the hour and he always wanted to go home early “because everything is done” I said so start on tomorrow’s list.

That didn’t work so I made the list longer than was time in the day. He bitched about that to. That. I was trying to over work him by having him work a full shift.

So a hired another guy and fired him before his 16 weeks to get unemployment had passed


78 posted on 09/05/2022 4:26:21 PM PDT by cableguymn
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To: Keyhopper

You end up with verdicts like the 2020 election.

Picked by the programers.


79 posted on 09/05/2022 4:29:22 PM PDT by cableguymn
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To: The_Media_never_lie

If I heard Steve Hilton right last night “40% of the age eligible workforce are not working”.


80 posted on 09/05/2022 8:05:39 PM PDT by willk (Local news media. Just as dangerous as national media.)
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