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$100 BILLION FOR UKRAINE; WHY NOT $100 BILLION FOR SECURING OUR NATION'S SCHOOLS?
Freerepublic.com ^ | March 28, 2023 | Hostage

Posted on 03/28/2023 9:43:25 AM PDT by Hostage

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To: ConservativeInPA

Fed office needs to approve funds.

State submits shopping list of equipment and services that are appropriate and licensed, Fed office reviews against list they have or state attests to appropriateness of equipment and qualifications of service operations, Fed office approves funding and calendars installations and inspections.

Fed offices also require annual status reports from states. These reports serve to keep eyes on the ball.

This is not difficult.


61 posted on 03/28/2023 2:46:43 PM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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To: Hostage

Not if the Fed office doesn’t exist or have any funds.


62 posted on 03/28/2023 2:52:49 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA ("How did you go bankrupt?" Bill asked. "Two ways," Mike said. "Gradually and then suddenly." )
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To: ConservativeInPA; tlozo; All

Correct. Upthread tlozo posted link to funds but has strings attached, requires matching grants which translate to raising local taxes. So that’s DOA.

Schools are always struggling for funds; no way to raise funds to match grants.


63 posted on 03/28/2023 3:00:49 PM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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To: Hostage

The federal government should spend nothing for protecting the schools. The states can do it cheaper with state and local money. Florida does it by allowing teachers and staff with permits and gun training to carry in school. Signs are posted on the schools attesting to that fact. Schools in Florida do not get shot up after that policy was initiated and spread to most counties. The feds would convert schools into barred and ion door prisons with millions of dollars of electronic detectors at a tremendous cost. That Teachers may be armed notice on the school door is a far more effective deterrent.


64 posted on 03/28/2023 3:06:23 PM PDT by arthurus (covfefe O)
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WRONG.

You’re ignoring the possibility a mass shooting incident could happen again somewhere in FL.

Sorry, but you’re off on this one.

It will happen again and again until uniform standards are developed and implemented:

https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/parkland-shooting-trial-verdict-nikolas-cruz


65 posted on 03/28/2023 3:51:30 PM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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To: Hostage

Won’t happen wherever school staff are trained and may be armed and that fact is advertised. The one commonality in ALL the school shootings is that the target was a known gun-free zone. Church shootings have declined because several in the past couple of years were ended by armed members and Christians can no longer be assumed to be unarmed just because they are, well, Christians.


66 posted on 03/28/2023 4:20:08 PM PDT by arthurus (covfefe -)
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To: arthurus; All

Your argument is that shooters will hold back if they think others may be armed.

That doesn’t align with the facts.

Shooters are suicidal.

Defenses are 1) Detection and 2) physical distance.

As an engineer and program manager, it is required to analyze all factors in light of protecting innocents from slaughter.

Airport Security is a good example as there are many layers of security that impede, if not prevent a suicidal person from entering areas where unsuspecting innocents are grouped.

Airport Security is uniformly implemented in the United States and other countries. It can serve as a template to establish uniform standards in school security.

The federal government has no constitutional role in education at the state level. However, it has a role in the peace, security, and well-being of its citizens.

It follows that the federal government can establish uniform security requirements that each state can implement in its own way.

Thus effort would not be unlike establishing roads, signs, signals, safety, conventions, and operating conditions of travel. The states work on their own to implement the codes but the end result is citizens can travel from one region to another, from one state to another with ease because the rules and conditions are similar. So it should be that school security should be generally uniform from one campus to another across the United States.

The point of such discussion is to ask why this is not being funded when it is observed that irrationally high funding is made available to foreign lands for which Amerucans have no interest.


67 posted on 03/28/2023 7:01:43 PM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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To: Hostage
Shooters that are looking to die attack police officers. I have not read or heard of it any other way. You seem to have a narrative in your head and these people will do what you imagine they should do. It doesn't work that way. you also seem to think it can never work unless the government does a uniform program for all schools. That is a crock altogether. Detail for me all the school shootings that have occurred at schools where being armed is permitted and is publicized.
68 posted on 03/28/2023 7:31:01 PM PDT by arthurus (covfefe .)
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Good grief. You point at me for inventing a “narrative?”

You apparently have not read the plans and motives of the killers as conveyed by persons close to them.

The recent shooter followed the same patterns as previous killers, cause something very bad to happen before dying.

Thinking armed persons might stop them does not deter them. Those are the facts.

What can deter them are physical barriers and detection equipment. Until they are suspected to have a dangerous weapon, armed persons are not going to stop them. Hence, detection is required. Until detection is found, the would-be killer must be held back using physical security. These are not constructs coming from me, these are fundamental features of protecting military bases.

I think you need to research more before wasting people’s time on message boards.


69 posted on 03/28/2023 8:57:48 PM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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To: Hostage

Keep supporting Ukraine but flush the god-awful squandering of taxpayer blood and sweat on their filthy green hoax.


70 posted on 04/07/2023 3:49:11 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Hostage

It would be a complete waste of money. Our schools are pathetic.


71 posted on 07/06/2023 12:02:50 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Hostage

You’re being logical.

how dare you


72 posted on 08/05/2023 2:47:58 AM PDT by combat_boots
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Why $100 billion to Ukraine and not to our schools?

Because its easier to launder it into offshore accounts when you got
a corrupt money hungry chump like Zelensky on the receiving end.


73 posted on 12/25/2023 10:20:07 AM PST by Liz (WRT govt: qualifications for wrecking crews are not as stringent as those for construction crews.)
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Btw, some $121 billion of your tax dollars (that could be used to protect our schoolchildren)
is over in Ukraine paying for govt pensions and salaries of govt workers.....

...........including salaries and pensions of 618,000 Ukraine teachers................


74 posted on 01/07/2024 4:22:39 PM PST by Liz (Actor/Sen Fred Thompson:"After being in DC, I often long for Hollywood's realism and sincerity.")
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To: Hostage
$100 BILLION FOR UKRAINE; WHY NOT $100 BILLION FOR SECURING OUR NATION'S SCHOOLS?

How about $$000 for both projects? The US government has no business giving money to either. Let the States of local governments do what needs to be done.

Everything the feds touch turns to crap and especially if it concerns $$$Billions$$$.

75 posted on 01/07/2024 5:20:20 PM PST by Gritty (The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the Revolution. - Saul Alinsky)
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To: BenLurkin
Would rather see $100 billion spent on securing OUR nation’s borders.

That, right there. 👆👆👆

76 posted on 01/07/2024 5:22:20 PM PST by Allegra (Less propaganda would be appreciated. )
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