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Hamas again using (their own people as) human shields in Gaza
JNS ^ | Oct 10, 2023

Posted on 10/10/2023 12:03:52 PM PDT by Conservat1

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1 posted on 10/10/2023 12:03:52 PM PDT by Conservat1
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To: Conservat1

They’re Palestinian. Sub-human shields. And they make excellent target practice.


2 posted on 10/10/2023 12:11:22 PM PDT by nonliberal (Z.)
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To: Conservat1

I have trouble believing that Hamas has set itself up for total annihilation by Israel. I fear that something else is in the works.


3 posted on 10/10/2023 12:14:49 PM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: Conservat1

At this point in time, I don’t care if they are using their own people as human shields. Israel needs to absolutely obliterate Gaza. And if hezbollah acts up, move to them next.


4 posted on 10/10/2023 12:15:29 PM PDT by hillarys cankles
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To: Conservat1

Call it what you want, those citizens are just terrorist to be. Just takes a little time.


5 posted on 10/10/2023 12:16:09 PM PDT by BigFreakinToad (Remember the Biden Kitchen Fire of 2004)
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To: Daveinyork

This was done to destroy the Saudi Israel talks which were moving forward.


6 posted on 10/10/2023 12:16:20 PM PDT by hillarys cankles
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To: Conservat1

well, aim small miss small.


7 posted on 10/10/2023 12:24:33 PM PDT by Jonny7797
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To: Conservat1

Not a problem. Indeed, maybe Israel should target large gathering of civilians as that’s where the targets are hiding. If they’re feeling generous, tell them they have 10 minutes to get out of the way.


8 posted on 10/10/2023 12:24:42 PM PDT by econjack
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To: Conservat1

they are not human shields, they 100% support the terrorists!

1000’s of terrorists were involved in this !!!!!

THINK about that 1000’s of people there KNEW about this operation and KEPT THEIR MOUTHS SHUT!

Everyone there is culpable IMO.


9 posted on 10/10/2023 12:34:41 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: Conservat1

It’s time to end this policy.

L


10 posted on 10/10/2023 12:35:52 PM PDT by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is. )
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To: Conservat1

I doubt that Israel will care much about collateral damage this time around.


11 posted on 10/10/2023 12:51:52 PM PDT by airborne (Thank you Rush for helping me find FreeRepublic! )
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To: Daveinyork

“I have trouble believing that Hamas has set itself up for total annihilation by Israel. I fear that something else is in the works.”

Iran is making a move.
I suspect it is coordinated with Russia and China.

Iran wants something. Maybe to come out as a nuke state? and THE power in the ME.

Russia wants eyes off of Ukraine, focus, $$, and Mil gear to go anyplace else than Ukraine.

China wants to see if US/EU backs Israel with direct support. and also to draw their attention.

IF US/EU do NOT intervene in Israel, they KNOW we are not going to do anything except a “harshly worded memo” when they invade Taiwan.

My forecast.


12 posted on 10/10/2023 1:02:58 PM PDT by uranium penguin
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To: hillarys cankles

Their human shields are willing accomplices. Don’t let them deter you. Israel.


13 posted on 10/10/2023 1:06:13 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants ( "It is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled."- Mark Twain)
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To: Conservat1; nonliberal; hillarys cankles; BigFreakinToad; econjack; TexasFreeper2009; airborne
It is interesting that no one brings up the Geneva Conventions any longer. They certainly helped define our mission on the Ca Mau Peninsula.

I especially liked the obvious reading of Articles 28 and 29 of the Fourth Geneva Convention. The VC were responsible for any civilian deaths in the base we shelled. Those civilians qualified as Protected Persons within the enemy’s physical control and could not be used to render certain points and areas immune from military operations.

14 posted on 10/10/2023 1:11:50 PM PDT by Retain Mike ( Sat Cong)
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After Hamas Strike, Congress Wants to Sanction Terror Group’s Use of Human Shields. But Legislation Is On Ice Until New Speaker is Elected.

Adam Kredo
October 10, 2023
House lawmakers on Tuesday introduced legislation to sanction the Iran-backed terror group Hamas for its use of human shields, but the critical legislation is destined to remain on ice until the Republican-controlled chamber can settle on a new speaker.

The bipartisan initiative represents the first congressional bid to hold the militant group accountable for its weekend slaughter of Israeli citizens, and underscores the paralysis caused by last week’s ouster of House Speaker Kevin McCarthy. Led by Reps. Mike Gallagher (R., Wis.) and Brad Sherman (D., Calif.), the bill would expand the White House’s power to sanction Hamas’s top leaders, as well as those affiliated with Palestinian Islamic Jihad and Hezbollah, another Iranian-backed terror group operating in Lebanon, according to a copy of the measure obtained by the Washington Free Beacon.

While the bipartisan bill is certain to attract widespread support as lawmakers on both sides of the aisle rally around Israel, it cannot be taken up by the House until a new speaker is selected. The situation will delay any action on one of the first pieces of legislation to crack down on Middle East terror groups following Hamas’s weekend attack on Israel that caught the Jewish state off guard and left more than a thousand dead and many more missing. It targets a key pillar of Hamas’s war fighting strategy, which focuses on embedding militants in heavily populated civilian areas and using them as cannon fodder. Hamas expanded this tactic during its siege on Israel, when it intentionally targeted and took hostage children, women, and elderly Israelis.

“The horrific Hamas attacks on Israel demonstrate that groups like Hamas, Hizballah, and the Palestine Islamic Jihad have always been dedicated to destroying Israel and combating American interests in the Middle East,” Gallagher, a member of the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, told the Free Beacon. “Of all the malign activities of these groups, few are more reprehensible or dangerous than their use of civilians as human shields.”

The legislation builds on a 2018 measure also pushed by Gallagher that authorized broad sanctions on terror groups that use human shields. The Biden administration is not fully enforcing that law, leading Gallagher and his colleagues to push a revamped version that goes further.

The latest measure extends the length of sanctions on these groups from 2023 to 2030 and gives Congress the power to force the administration into leveling economic penalties on those leading and supporting the various terror groups. It also would require the president to justify in writing any decision to waive sanctions or skirt their imposition.

“By reforming the [2018] Sanctioning the Use of Civilians as Defenseless Shields Act and giving Congress a greater role in ensuring these critical sanctions are implemented, this bipartisan legislation sends a clear signal that the United States will severely punish this behavior,” Gallagher said.

The bill specifically addresses Hamas’s surprise attack on Israel, noting that those taken hostage by the group are effectively being used as human shields. It also addresses the terror group’s decision to embed rocket launchers and weapons caches in densely populated areas throughout the Gaza Strip. Hamas does this to ensure Israeli forces unintentionally kill civilians.

“Hamas, Hezbollah, Palestinian Islamic Jihad and other groups that cynically exploit civilians as human shields are responsible for the deaths of countless Israelis and Palestinian civilians alike,” Sherman said in a statement, adding that the bill will make “certain that the United States will hold terrorists accountable for their use of this disgraceful tactic.”
https://freebeacon.com/latest-news/after-hamas-strike-congress-wants-to-sanction-terror-groups-use-of-human-shields/


15 posted on 10/10/2023 1:12:55 PM PDT by Conservat1
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In order to mitigate harm to noncombatants, the IDF carries out surgical strikes,

Huh? There are NO Non-Combatants in what they call Palestine, THEY VOTED FOR THIS, Overwhelmingly
16 posted on 10/10/2023 1:13:19 PM PDT by eyeamok
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To: Retain Mike
4th Geneva Convention Relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War, Part 3, Article 1, Section 28:

"The presence of a protected person (aka civilian noncombatant) may not be used to render certain points or areas immune from military operations."

17 posted on 10/10/2023 1:15:54 PM PDT by BlueLancer (Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times, it's enemy action.)
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To: Retain Mike

It would be nice if combatants all respected and followed
the Geneva Conventions.

Given that it has been a long time since both sides of any “war” has followed it, is the GC just another weapon used by terrorists when it suits them?

I’m not in Israel so I can’t imagine what they are dealing with. But since they are still suffering from ongoing terrorist attacks, I will support their decision as to how they choose to fight their enemy.


18 posted on 10/10/2023 1:24:13 PM PDT by airborne (Thank you Rush for helping me find FreeRepublic! )
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To: Daveinyork
One pundit compared it to the Tet offensive. North Vietnam pushed the Viet Cong to attack and then watched as they were destroyed as a fighting force. That left the NVA to run the war.

I see other issues at play:

1. Israel is expending a lot of fuel and ammo already.

2. Jets are not like cars, they require periodic inspections and certain components only have a specific life span (in flight hours) before they require changing.

3. 300,000 recalled Reservists is going to be a major strain on the Israeli economy. The land war will start soon because Israel cannot keep that many people on active duty for a long period of time.

4. The strain on the Israel military may weaken it as a fighting force even over the short term. It may leave Israel vulnerable. A month from now if this is still going on, I would be worried that Hezbollah and foreign Islamists will begin coordinated attacks on Israel via the West Bank and Lebanon.

5. While Israel is busy killing off Hamas, Iran is free to finish its nuclear weapons program.

Gaza is relatively small and a target rich environment. Israel may not need a long protracted fight to clear out Hamas. One possible miscalculation on Hamas' part would be the total war Israel is launching. Hamas may have thought based on Israel's previous responses and the large number of hostages that Israel would hit Gaza, vent their revenge and then negotiate for the hostages. It appears from the outside looking in that the Israeli leadership has written off at least the adult hostages and there will be total war. I am sure in Israel, smarter people than me have already discussed this attack being a feint to divert Israel's attention before a larger attack from the North and West begins.

19 posted on 10/10/2023 1:39:20 PM PDT by OldGoatCPO (No Caitiff Choir of Angels will sing for me. )
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To: Daveinyork

The only chance that Hamas and Gaza have to survive is if a much bigger, broader war breaks out before they are reduced to inhabitable rubble.


20 posted on 10/10/2023 1:46:10 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast (“We should not assume civilization is robust”)
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