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Seventh Circuit Overturns Injunction Against Illinois "Assault Weapons Ban", Says AR-15s Aren't Protected Arms
Bearing Arms ^ | 11/3/23 | Cam Edwards

Posted on 11/03/2023 2:54:43 PM PDT by CFW

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SCOTUS will have to take this case. They will have no choice.
1 posted on 11/03/2023 2:54:43 PM PDT by CFW
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Meanwhile,

https://bearingarms.com/camedwards/2023/11/03/self-defense-gun-sales-up-in-october-n76904

“Self-Defense Concerns Drive Gun Sales in October, 51 Straight Months of More Than 1-Million Transfers”


2 posted on 11/03/2023 2:55:50 PM PDT by CFW (I will not comply!)
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...because they’re too close to machine guns...

THIS is a legal argument?

Pritzker is too close to a whale but I don't hold THAT against him.

3 posted on 11/03/2023 2:59:13 PM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Repeal the Patriot Act; Abolish the DHS; reform FBI top to bottom!)
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SCOTUS will have to take this case. They will have no choice.

They always have a choice, and the California Miller v. Bonta case hasn't been through the 9th yet, so I think SCOTUS will wait until they overturn Judge Benitez (again) before consolidating both cases.

SCOTUS already remanded Miller v. Bonta once to the 9th with orders to reconsider in light of Bruen.

If the 9th comes up with the same conclusion 'in light of Bruen,' then SCOTUS will take it up and set a precedent for the nation.

4 posted on 11/03/2023 3:03:30 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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To: Alas Babylon!

“THIS is a legal argument?”


Yep. That’s their argument. Stupidity and ignorance! We are surrounded by it!


5 posted on 11/03/2023 3:03:57 PM PDT by CFW (I will not comply!)
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From the opinion:

“Coming directly to the question whether the weapons and feeding devices covered by the challenged legislation enjoy Second Amendment protection, at the first step of the Bruen analysis, we conclude that the answer is no. We come to this conclusion because these assault weapons and high-capacity magazines are much more like machineguns and militarygrade weaponry than they are like the many different types of firearms that are used for individual self-defense (or so the legislature was entitled to conclude). Indeed, the AR-15 is almost the same gun as the M16 machinegun. The only meaningful distinction, as we already have noted, is that the AR-15 has only semiautomatic capability (unless the user takes advantage of some simple modifications that essentially make it fully automatic), while the M16 operates both ways. Both weapons share the same core design, and both rely on the same patented operating system.”


6 posted on 11/03/2023 3:05:57 PM PDT by CFW (I will not comply!)
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The three-judge panel concluded that AR-15s (and presumably semi-automatic rifles in general) are not protected by the Second Amendment because they’re too close to machine guns

Talk about just making up your own "facts". And they show their ignorance of all things firearms.

7 posted on 11/03/2023 3:07:40 PM PDT by MileHi ((Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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The three-judge panel concluded that AR-15s (and presumably semi-automatic rifles in general) are not protected by the Second Amendment because they’re too close to machine guns:

Sounds like a slippery slope to me. So the National Firearms Act of 1934 essential outlawed machine guns. Now they want to outlaw semiautomatic weapons. Next will be revolvers, followed by single shot firearms. Slippery slopes work two ways and should not be the basis of constitutional arguments. But I am fine with the slippery slope going the opposite direction. Let me buy a machine gun without the tax stamp. Then I want to buy TOW missiles. If I live long enough I want to be able to buy tactical nuclear weapons to clean up blue cities.

8 posted on 11/03/2023 3:12:57 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Rebuild the Temple.)
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Yes. Of course they have a choice. And the Circuits with the progressive judges always take their sweet time in issuing their rulings so as to delay the case from making it to SCOTUS.


9 posted on 11/03/2023 3:13:41 PM PDT by CFW (I will not comply!)
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I don’t recall the constitution making an exception for “AR-15s” just that the right to bear arms shall be uninfringed.


10 posted on 11/03/2023 3:14:50 PM PDT by Skywise
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I don't know if you like to visit Twitter/X ("TwiX") but this is an excellent first take by Kostas Moros, Second Amendment lawyer on several of the California cases:

https://twitter.com/MorosKostas/status/1720548034839531760

One Excerpt:

Alright, a quick reaction thread. The majority first, written by Judge Woods and joined by Judge Easterbrook.

Already off to a horrible start. What falls outside the Second Amendment's protected "arms" has nothing to do with a "military side". Plenty of firearms the military uses now or has used in the past are common among American civilians.

"Arms" refers to "weapons of offence, or armor of defence". There is no qualifications about exempting those arms used by soldiers.

The contempt for Heller and its progeny is palpable.

Remember that their "many years" is just from around the 1930s to 2008. In the 19th century, all major commentators agreed that the Second Amendment applied to an individual right.

His quotes from the opinion and his reactions are a multi-Tweet thread. Excellent reading.
11 posted on 11/03/2023 3:21:07 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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Apparently the framers did not distinguish between ‘protected’ and ‘unprotected’ arms. I guess that is up to the tyrants in robes.


12 posted on 11/03/2023 3:24:48 PM PDT by Right Brother (Pray for God's intervention to stop UMCRevMom's invasion of Free Republic)
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There are 24M of these type of guns in private hands in the US

COME AND GET THEM..........................


13 posted on 11/03/2023 3:26:09 PM PDT by SteelPSUGOP
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Well we can't have sawed off shot guns because they have no military use ... Miller ...

And we can't have simi auto because they are to much like military weapons...

What weapons are good for preserving a free state ...?

The 2nd is not about hunting or self protection.

14 posted on 11/03/2023 3:26:40 PM PDT by 1of10 (be vigilant , be strong, be safe, be 1 of 10 .)
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No real difference between a Remington Model 8 made in 1906, a Winchester model 1903 or an AR-15. Just the looks.


15 posted on 11/03/2023 3:30:23 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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“SCOTUS will have to take this case. They will have no choice.”

And the 2nd Amendment is so clear, I don’t see how they can do anything but rule correctly.


16 posted on 11/03/2023 3:31:28 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam ("Normal" is never coming back.)
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I like what the Georgia State Supreme Court ruled about firearms in 1846.

* Nunn v. State, 1 Ga. (1 Kel.) 243, at 251 (1846).

“’The right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed.’ The right of the whole people, old and young, men, women and boys, and not militia only, to keep and bear arms of every description, and not such merely as are used by the militia, shall not be infringed, curtailed, or broken in upon, in the smallest degree; and all this for the important end to be attained: the rearing up and qualifying a well-regulated militia, so vitally necessary to the security of a free State.”

I bet the people of Israel wish they had a 2nd Amendment now. I remember a couple of years back when anti-communist protestors in Hong Kong held up a sign stating “WE NEED THE 2ND AMENDMENT!


17 posted on 11/03/2023 3:34:58 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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Once again the rats prove they are the enemy of all real Americans.

They are still butthurt over the Roe vs Wade being overturned by using the actual law, the US Constitution they hate so much because it gets in the way of their Marxist takeover.


18 posted on 11/03/2023 3:35:41 PM PDT by Boomer (The Long Winter is coming...)
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Where did these fags come up with that BS. From a USA Today Fart Checker?


19 posted on 11/03/2023 3:43:18 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer ('Build Back Better' is a Bidenskyyyyyyism for 'we gotta get rid of all dem white peoples'.)
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However, 155mm howitzers are nowhere near a machinegun. Therefore, I want one those babies.


20 posted on 11/03/2023 3:45:39 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer ('Build Back Better' is a Bidenskyyyyyyism for 'we gotta get rid of all dem white peoples'.)
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