Posted on 01/29/2024 7:25:12 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27
The people who get “good value” pay little or no income taxes, and no property tax — just sales taxes on retail goods and fuel. Those without cars don’t even pay the latter directly.
One of the US’s huge political problems is that so many “voters” do not have to consider the personal cost of their selections (or if they consider it, they are voting for free lunch paid for by others). The seldom heard corollary to “No taxation without representation” is “No representation without taxation”.
“Property taxes are unconstitutional-—change my mind.”
Cite where.
“Federal income tax is a scam.”
How would you finance our defense?
This is why there is a thriving cash-based economy where I live in So Cal.
Got a 20% discount and free desserts from a catering service for cash and also four new tires for cash, saved about $80 on the tires.
California. So little to no return for our tax dollars - it’s going to support a very large illegal and welfare population.
American citizens pay for it all!
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Basically true but anyone be it citizen, non citizen
or overseas purchaser they do pay some tax on what was
purchased.
"Most in new poll say they pay too much in taxes"
Wake up patriots!
Paying too much in taxes is the long arm of the 16th Amendment (16A; direct taxes) at work.
"16th Amendment : The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration."
The 16th Amendment is repealable independently of corrupt Congress. Patrionts need to work with their new, Trump-supporting state lawmakers to get rid of 16A.
The 17th Amendment (17A; popular voting for federal senators) needs to disappear too.
Repealing 16&17A will effectively “secede” all the states from the unconstitutionally big federal government.
“Cherish, therefore, the spirit of our people, and keep alive their attention. If once they become inattetive to the public affairs, you and I, and Congress and Assemblies, judges and governors, shall all become wolves [emphasis added]. It seems to be the law of our general nature.” - Thomas Jefferson (Letter to Edward Carrington January 16, 1787)
Note that Congress is unconstitutionally spending your 16A taxes too.
"Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States." —Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
“ If the tax be not proposed for the common defence, or general welfare, but for other objects, wholly extraneous, (as for instance, for propagating Mahometanism among the Turks, or giving aids and subsidies to a foreign nation, to build palaces for its kings, or erect monuments to its heroes,) it would be wholly indefensible upon constitutional principles [emphases added].” — Justice Joseph Story, Commentaries on the Constitution 2 (1833).
From the congressional record:
”Simply this, that the care of the property, the liberty, and the life of the citizen, under the solemn sanction of an oath imposed by your Constitution, is in the States and not in the federal government [emphases added]. I have sought to effect no change in that respect in the Constitution of the country.” —John Bingham, Congressional. Globe. 1866, page 1292 (see top half of third column)
(Again) “Cherish, therefore, the spirit of our people, and keep alive their attention. If once they become inattetive to the public affairs, you and I, and Congress and Assemblies, judges and governors, shall all become wolves [emphasis added]. It seems to be the law of our general nature.” - Thomas Jefferson (Letter to Edward Carrington January 16, 1787)
Pelosi: "We have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it." (non-FR; 6 sec.)
Democrats [and RINOs] Are Terrified Of An Educated And Informed Public (3.12.23)
“How would you finance our defense?”
The Founding Fathers figured it out—but of course they were smarter in those days.
;-)
Most in new poll also want more spending, or at least don’t want spending cut. Polls basically show that people want something for nothing.
See my tagline.
“The Founding Fathers figured it out—but of course they were smarter in those days.”
Yep. They just printed the money!
Give the money and housing?
Yuhp, ad most of the peope replying to this poll have all kinds of ideas about how much more the governement should spendon them.
Not for nothing ..for OTHER people’s hard earned money.
“How would you finance our defense”?
We didn’t have a Federal income tax until 1913-—States paid per diem. BTW, you’re acting as if sending MORE money to a corrupt entity will make it better?
There’s so much waste in our government that is my point. Are you stating there’s no waste?
I’m just grateful I’m not getting all the government I’m paying for!
In some places that would be illegal!
Cite where it’s constitutional.
BTW, it’s not “per se’ “ in the Constitution but implemented unconstitutionally:
“The Constitution’s tax origination clause states, “All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives,” meaning that only elected representatives can levy taxes — not municipal budget-writing bureaucrats”.
Less than 60% of Americans pay federal income tax at all.
“Here in Illinois we have more units of government than any other State including California.”
My wife is from Illinois and has a lot of relatives still living there.
The senior citizens have basically given up and just stay and bitch about their taxes and criminals in charge of the state.
Many of the younger ones get a good job or trade and move to Indiana or Iowa or ???.
The older ones, if able, physically and financially often go to Floriduh or Texas for the winter.
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