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Dem Rep. Bush: Men Shouldn’t Say What ‘Women and Pregnant Folks’ Do
Breitbart ^ | 03/09/2024 | Ian hatchett

Posted on 03/09/2024 9:21:51 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27

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To: rollo tomasi

It appears to be hopeless, but thanks. Apparently you get it. In no way am I advocating for abortion. But I’m saying a man has no escape hatch from parenthood, and women can either have a child, or kill it according to the whim. But please, tell me more about equality.


61 posted on 03/09/2024 12:40:41 PM PST by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI)
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To: DesertRhino

at least a condom is a start. and i tell women that do not want kids to get tied all the time. no reason not to.


62 posted on 03/09/2024 12:41:10 PM PST by ronniesgal (have you even tried to mind your own business?)
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To: MIA_eccl1212

Oy freaking vey

Why are you blabbing about this nonsense. It happens once in a while

If the million abortions that happen in America every year you’re hijacking the thread for these poor men who have wives that fool around on them and that’s the extent of men’s involvement in abortion

I am not buying


63 posted on 03/09/2024 1:01:12 PM PST by stanne
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To: DesertRhino

“Every man has to explain?”

Where did THAT come from? Nothing I wrote.

“He doesn’t get a vote in the matter.”

Yes; I know. Nothing I wrote says different. He COULD do his level best to influence the mother to make the better choice.

“If the man demands an abortion, the woman doesn’t have to comply.”

She doesn’t HAVE to, but sometimes it’s either comply or be battered/killed by the man. (I’ve seen it when working with battered women on Maui. And the male police sided with the man about 90% of the time.)

“It’s 100% on the women to answer to God for that. Unless of course, the guy talked her into it and she went along with his idea.”

If the guy talked her into it and she went along with it, he’ll have some ‘splainin’ to do on the other side. (But didn’t you just say that “the woman doesn’t have to comply” if a man demands an abortion?

Bottom line, there are varied circumstances surrounding having an abortion; they’re all wrong.


64 posted on 03/09/2024 1:04:00 PM PST by MayflowerMadam (Fraud vitiates everything." - SCOTUS)
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To: rollo tomasi

Ya. I don’t care about the law of abortion. It has steered many people into terrible behavior

People can tell God when they see Him the law was so unfair.

I’m not interested.


65 posted on 03/09/2024 1:05:51 PM PST by stanne
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To: DesertRhino

“ That’s my point exactly. When have you ever heard of a woman told the alternative to pregnancy is to skip sex completely in their life? Doesn’t happen. Women always have an escape hatch for parenthood. Amanda San”

What are you talking about. Of course it goes for women

I am speaking with illogical people here.


66 posted on 03/09/2024 1:07:02 PM PST by stanne
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To: MIA_eccl1212; stanne

That guy has serious issues. Should see a therapist for whatever baggage is poisoning his mind/life.


67 posted on 03/09/2024 1:19:44 PM PST by MayflowerMadam (Fraud vitiates everything." - SCOTUS)
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To: stanne

You said “He has to skip sex”/”He most certainly can demand an abortion”, with respect to men, laying all responsibility on men for what happens.

I’m saying that men support abortion because they don’t want 18+ years of child support. Eliminate that, and men’s support for abortion is greatly reduced, if they can “abort” financial responsibility instead.


68 posted on 03/09/2024 1:39:04 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (Either you will rule. Or you will be ruled. There is no other choice.)
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To: stanne

It’s not a hijacking. One factor in abortion is women fooling around with men who are either not their husbands, or whose kids would preclude her from nailing a prime husband candidate.

Women in their 20s like to have sex with exciting/handsome guys who they know will never marry her. Then around 30 decides to find some schmuck who will support her and pay her bills and debts. But having children lowers her value in the marriage market. Especially biracial children.


69 posted on 03/09/2024 1:47:06 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (Either you will rule. Or you will be ruled. There is no other choice.)
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To: SauronOfMordor

Ya well I’m just saying now because when they face God it’ll be a hard sell

Killing a baby to keep the money involved in 18 years of child support or whatever the reason is a much tougher sell at the hour of death trying to get into heaven than I got married and have a bunch of great people in my life

I just went to a funeral for a 95 year old man the wake was full for 4 hours. A lot of progeny extended family and local homeys men and women

His granddaughter asked me why I thought it was a joyful occasion though it was sad. I said everyone here knew him. They know his talk with God is going well

So. Fair laws rules and regs or not women vs men’s responsibilities or none it comes down to virtue. We have some we struggle with others but we’re supposed to develop them. Nothing to do at all with pointing the finger or withholding support from those God wants us to support. For Him

That’s my point Sauron of Mordor


70 posted on 03/09/2024 1:51:07 PM PST by stanne
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To: SauronOfMordor

“ One factor in abortion is women fooling around with men who are either not their husbands, or whose kids would preclude her from nailing a prime husband candidate.

Women in their 20s like to have sex with exciting/handsome guys who they know will never marry her. Then around 30 decides to find some schmuck who will support her and pay her bills and debts. But having children lowers her value in the marriage market.”

I wouldn’t argue with a word of what I copied and pasted

And I haven’t said one word against any of it.


71 posted on 03/09/2024 1:52:52 PM PST by stanne
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Dems shouldn’t say what other people shouldn’t say, Cori, you bossy little control freak.


72 posted on 03/09/2024 1:56:04 PM PST by Allegra (Less propaganda would be appreciated. )
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To: stanne

And for the record, I’m a married father and grandfather who has never been involved in abortion.

I’m just arguing against unfair treatment for men.


73 posted on 03/09/2024 1:58:04 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (Either you will rule. Or you will be ruled. There is no other choice.)
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To: SauronOfMordor

I’m arguing against unfair treatment of innocent babies.

Men are as responsible for abortionss women.


74 posted on 03/09/2024 1:59:54 PM PST by stanne
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To: stanne

I disagree. Women have absolute decision power here. No man can force them, and no man can stop them. And women demanded that it be that way (”My body, my choice”).

Ok, then. They have full power, they can have full responsibility.


75 posted on 03/09/2024 2:03:22 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (Either you will rule. Or you will be ruled. There is no other choice.)
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To: SauronOfMordor

No man can force them, and no man can stop them“

Men demand that women get abortions all the time. It is not right It is evil. But it happens

Women have much power yes

You don’t have to see it this way so please let it go. But men do not have to have sex with women’s they’re not married to and don’t intent to raise kids with

That’s a fact


76 posted on 03/09/2024 2:48:13 PM PST by stanne
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To: stanne

And women “do not have to have sex with women’s they’re not married to and don’t intent to raise kids with” either.

Which you might have said if you had chosen to be even-handed.

Men can “demand” abortion all they want. The FACT is that women, exclusively, have the right to make this decision, independently of the desire of any man.


77 posted on 03/09/2024 3:15:35 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (Either you will rule. Or you will be ruled. There is no other choice.)
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To: SauronOfMordor

Not if they’re not pregnant.


78 posted on 03/09/2024 4:44:17 PM PST by stanne
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To: ChicagoConservative27

A racist who can’t understand normal thinking


79 posted on 03/09/2024 8:59:03 PM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes.)
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To: SauronOfMordor

in the face of current laws on the books... women have all the power to kill their offspring. blackmail the man (who may or may NOT be her legal husband), sue the man after consent or sue for divorce in order to obtain property belonging to the man.

nearly 78 percent of divorces are initiated by women.
marrying or having sexual congress with a woman who has committed abortion or adultery previously in her earlier life, is an agreement with hell. A woman who will kill her own offspring, and commit adultery may often lie, divorce, blackmail, threaten and sue her victims for support and also abort again, and again. for gain.

Ecclesiastes 7:26


80 posted on 03/10/2024 10:04:57 AM PDT by MIA_eccl1212 (10-10-10-10)
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