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Southern California woman defrauded over $150 million from U.S. Postal Service
KTLA ^ | April 27, 2024 | Vivian Chow

Posted on 04/28/2024 6:18:50 AM PDT by artichokegrower

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To: jeffersondem

the deterrent is no longer there, no punishment’s for anything these days


21 posted on 04/28/2024 7:11:28 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: Zhang Fei; artichokegrower; Ezekiel; Presbyterian Reporter; Lurker; Lockbox; BradyLS; ...
One of the things that Trump did which completely and wholly went under the radar was his tenacious work to alter the Universal Postal Service. (I know this is long, but if you take the time to read it, it is easy to understand why someone like Trump found this so blatantly and openly egregious to the well being of this nation. He didn't eradicate it completely, but he had it altered by threatening to take China and the UN to the mat on it and pulling out of this completely, that some long needed changes were made. Of course, this was back when half a billion dollars actually had value. Oops. Did I just write that?)

You might ask yourself, what is the Universal Postal Service? It is some kind of union? Part of the United States Postal Service (USPS)? The answer is no to those, and the existence of this organization, at the time it was created by The Treaty of Bern in 1874, was quite laudable, and needed. You may have, as I did, ask yourself the question: "Why is it cheaper to ship things from china to USA than it is to ship within the USA?"

It is a valid thing I wondered about, and when this came to the surface during the Trump Administration, I found out it relates to this: During his term, Trump threatened to pull out of this UN organization called the "Universal Postal Union" over the issues of unfair disparate mailing rates for the United States, and it brought the issue to the surface where proles like me found out for the first time about this odd situation. And even after Trump got some changes enacted, it is STILL unfair to the USA.

I discuss for your reference below WHY there is such a disparity in shipping costs. That disparity stems from the United Nations, and it is deliberate.

I went to a website at random called ONLINE SHIPPING CALCULATOR to compare the cost of shipping a 1 lb. package from Washington DC to Beijing, and then compared to shipping the same 1 lb package in the reverse, from Beijing to Washington DC:

What I was behind this crazy, unfair disparity in rates is called Universal Postal Union.

I knew nothing about this, then stumbled across it by accident some years ago. It has the word "union" in it, which is repulsive enough in most industrial contexts, but otherwise sounds innocuous.

It is NOT innocuous, and the Communists in China have been milking this for all it is worth and more.

The Universal Postal Service was brought into being by The Treaty of Bern in 1874 with the ostensible and laudable goal of making sure that mail could be sent between countries around the world without worrying about mail being returned to to insufficient postage because the cost of delivering mail in the receiving country might be far above that in the sending country.

From the Wikipedia entry on the Universal Postal Union:
The treaty provided that:

One important result of the Treaty was that it was no longer necessary to affix postage stamps of countries that a mailpiece passed through in transit. The UPU provides that stamps from member nations are accepted along the entire international route.

This all sounds absolutely great. Then, in 1948, the Universal Postal Union became a "specialized agency" of the United Nations when it was founded. And like every damned thing the UN has touched, the International Grifters known as the UN, Leftists all, decided in 1969 to implement "Terminal Dues" which took into account the tonnage/volume shipping between countries and...to "equalize" things and "help" developing nations, they instituted a standard progressive system of Terminal Dues, and assigned countries a value that indicated their degree of advancement. United States would be a Tier I country, and back then, a country like Communist China would be a Tier III. This meant that in addition to a simple disparity in volume of mail shipped to determine the "Terminal Dues" paid, there was also a Marxist element that required Tier I countries to pay MORE per volume/tonnage disparity. Before 1969, it was a straight up "Terminal Due" based on simple measurement of disparity in volume or tonnage.

After 1969, If you were a Tier III like Communist China, you paid X $ "Terminal Dues" for each unit of measurement. However, if you were a Tier I like the United States, you paid X $ times whatever the tier multiplied your "Terminal Dues" by, just to "equalize" things between wealthier and less wealthy nations.

I had to poke around to find this, but this document defines the tier system that determines who is the taxpayer (such as the USA) and who is the grifter who takes advantages of the subsidies provided to them by the Universal Postal Union: LINK TO UPU DOCUMENT: Classification of countries and territories for terminal dues and Quality of Service Fund (QSF) purposes for the 2018–2021 period

How Marxist of them.

And lest the lesson be lost in this current push to implement a international corporate tax to be paid to the UN, you can look to history to see just how these International Grifters handle these types of things with no elected representation: In 1974 they tripled this "Terminal Dues", and in 1979, tripled it again. Then in 1984, increased it again by 40%. This is how THEY do taxes.

But back to the subject at hand. For the Communists making cheap, crappy goods, there is such an imbalance of shipping costs that it is wholly impractical for consumers to ship many defective goods back to the manufacturer in Communist China. The cost of return shipping often outstrips the cost of manufacture and distribution paid by the consumer, so most people don't bother.

Think about that. How much money do many Communist Chinese manufacturers save on their Customer Service departments? Think of what happens when you ship a item back. Someone has to receive it. Someone has to move, label, inventory, and store it. In better companies, they might do analysis on it. And then there is the supply of a new, hopefully better working product that must be manufactured, packaged and shipped back to the consumer.

The logistical tail is huge. Think of how many Communist Chinese companies simply dispense with this. That is a significant cost. Significant. Anyone who has dealt with Chinese customer service knows it is extremely spotty. More expensive items do better, cheaper items have crappy or wholly non-existent customer service. In many cases, you cannot even contact them.

When President Trump took office, surely someone who understands business better than 99.999% of the people governing us, and better than 100% of the people who populate the UN, he was likely fully aware that we as taxpayers pay a subsidy to China (via the Universal Postal Union at the UN) to give them a significant and unfair competitive advantage, and announced he was going to withdraw the US from the Universal Postal Union. That completely threw them into an uproar "How dare he protect the interests of his own citizens!" This article from the Heritage Foundation describes it a bit: The Heritage Foundation: A U.S. Victory at the Universal Postal Union

Granted, it wasn't a complete victory to me. That would have been an elevation of China to Tier I, a simple withdrawal. The Communists still get their ill-gotten subsidy from the UPU, and we pay a little less, but we still pay.


INTERESTING UPDATE: All this above was written before the effects of what Trump was fighting for took place. Up to that point, the US Postal Service was losing $75 Million USD annually (In addition to US Carriers like FedEx and UPS, who were collectively losing 300-$500 Million USD annually!)

In October 2019, Trump notified the United Postal Union, that unless changes were made, the United States was going to withdraw from membership in the United Postal Union.

This is fascinating.

Look at my same analysis today (compared to the analysis with screen captures back in 2020!

Notice anything different about this?

The results are nearly 180 degrees reversed on each side.
THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE HAVE A PRESIDENT WHO FIGHTS FOR OUR INTERESTS, INSTEAD OF A PRESIDENT WHO IS BEHOLDEN TO THE INTERESTS OF COMMUNIST CHINA.

Personally, I look to President Trump's approach to this subject of UPU Terminal Dues in the "Trade War" as evidence he was really in this fight for his country, and why so many of us admire him so much and are outraged by this fraudulent election.

22 posted on 04/28/2024 7:11:30 AM PDT by rlmorel (In Today's Democrat America, The $5 Dollar Bill is the New $1 Dollar Bill.)
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“However, my internet browser thinks that Temu is one of my favorite sites. This is probably because I see so many Temu ads with weird things. I just have to click on the ad to find out what the things are.”

Same here. The products being pitched are all slightly disturbing, visually. It’s intentional, and designed to be psychologically unsettling.


23 posted on 04/28/2024 7:24:02 AM PDT by drwoof
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To: exDemMom

“I just have to click on the ad to find out what the things are.”

MUST resist that impulse!

Have you figured out why you must put a toilet paper tube under your toilet seat? Or why you should wrap your doorknobs in tinfoil? Or put spoons over your eyes?

I’d really like to know.


24 posted on 04/28/2024 7:28:22 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“When exposing a crime is treated like a crime, you are being ruled by criminals” – Edward Snowden)
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To: rlmorel

Thanks.

I learn something new every day.


25 posted on 04/28/2024 7:30:45 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: rlmorel

Thanks for the story behind the story! Very intormstive and enlightenng.


26 posted on 04/28/2024 7:31:23 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: rlmorel

Great post, bookmarking ‘universal postal service’


27 posted on 04/28/2024 7:32:41 AM PDT by Made In The USA (Ellen Ate Dynamite Good Bye Ellen)
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To: rlmorel

Outstanding…thank you.


28 posted on 04/28/2024 7:37:00 AM PDT by Laslo Fripp (Does anybody proofread anymore?)
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To: artichokegrower

Surprised she didn’t flee to China with the stolen loot b/f the Feds moved in.

Foreigners come here and run scams, in my neck of the woods (SoCal) it’s Eastern Europeans and Iranians - medicare and medical equipment fraud seem to be two of the big ones costing the system tens of millions of dollars.

One Iranian leased 15 luxury vehicles for his fraudulent “business” - forged the paperwork, sold all the cars and then absconded with the cash back to the old country - long gone before the feds caught up with him.


29 posted on 04/28/2024 7:37:25 AM PDT by Bon of Babble (You Say You Want a Revolution?)
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To: artichokegrower

This is ‘free shipping’ at its finest.


30 posted on 04/28/2024 7:38:30 AM PDT by Delta 21 (If anyone is treasonous, it is those who call me such.)
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To: rlmorel

Thanks for the detailed explanation. Another example how bureaucrats manipulate a system.


31 posted on 04/28/2024 8:08:23 AM PDT by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting…)
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To: Zhang Fei
Anyone who’s ever ordered anything from Temu or Aliexpress probably wonders how they manage to ship from abroad at rock-bottom prices. This may be part of the answer. My guess is the margins were paper-thin, and the savings were mostly passed on to consumers.

The government of China also subsidizes shippers in China as a way of undercutting sellers in other countries, particularly the US, with the intention of putting the competition out of business.

Maybe the postal service will just send postage due bills to these online retail websites.

I know an eBay seller who was habitually understating the package weight when buying postage. He charged the buyer the full price and pocketed the difference. And yes, he did eventually get a bill from the USPS.

32 posted on 04/28/2024 8:13:40 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Nothing says "Democracy" like throwing your opponents in jail.)
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To: Lockbox

In communist countries with bloated government bureaucracies, gaming government regulations and theft from the state is a national sport, built into the DNA of every citizen


33 posted on 04/28/2024 8:15:19 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: artichokegrower

“What the heck were they mailing from China?”

They were receiving from China.


34 posted on 04/28/2024 8:22:21 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: BradyLS

“Rather than somehow directly bilking the USPS of $150 million, the shippers saved that money otherwise spent on shipping via stamps that were fakes.”

saved? They cheated you.


35 posted on 04/28/2024 8:25:12 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: rlmorel

Thanks for that informative post !


36 posted on 04/28/2024 8:26:15 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America.)
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To: artichokegrower
What the heck were they mailing from China?

An awful lot of products sold in the USA are actually manufactured in China.

37 posted on 04/28/2024 8:29:53 AM PDT by libertylover (Our biggest problem, by far, is that almost all of big media is AGENDA-DRIVEN, not-truth driven.)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

The government refuses to track the money going to the Ukraine. Billions are being stolen in plain sight. It’s become an industry in and of itself.


38 posted on 04/28/2024 8:32:45 AM PDT by Spok
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What the heck were they mailing from China?

Chewing gum. Lots of it.

39 posted on 04/28/2024 8:39:10 AM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: artichokegrower

Save for later


40 posted on 04/28/2024 8:44:44 AM PDT by Romans Nine
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