Posted on 09/04/2003 11:25:57 AM PDT by the_devils_advocate_666
Edited on 04/29/2004 2:03:04 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
I'm saying your argument is irrelevant. I'm saying who cares what the ratio is among adults.
The point is that a legal, hard-to-get drug is used twice as much by teens than an illegal easy to get drug.
That the ratio jumps in adults is so obvious as to be juvenile.
You tell me. When you stated an "adult" 10:1 ratio, what age group were you looking at? Was this 21+?
If so, then, yes, over 35 would be greater than 10:1 and under 35 would be less than 10:1.
Tell you what, give me your source and I'll look it up myself.
And why is the illegal drug easy to get? Because its sellers, unlike the sellers of the legal drug, have no incentive to not sell to kids.
Yet, despite the fact that alcohol is hard to get, despite the incentive not to sell to kids, kids use alcohol twice as much as marijuana.
This tells me that the easy-to-get/hard-to-get argument is a non-starter. It has nothing to do with usage.
As I stated before, existing hard drug dealers would continue to sell marijuana to teens, even if marijuana were legal.
Then why did you bring it up?
As I stated before, existing hard drug dealers would continue to sell marijuana to teens, even if marijuana were legal.
Not clear---they do not now sell legal-for-adults alcohol to teens.
bassmaner brought it up, not me. Stop being lazy and do some looking -- cripes, there's only 66 posts.
"Not clear---they do not now sell legal-for-adults alcohol to teens."
Crystal clear. The drugs dealer's wholesale price would plummet. Hell, he could grow his own. He could drive around with bales in the back seat. He could lower his marijuana price, keep and expand his teen customers, and still make a very tidy profit.
Plus, he's right there when they want to gateway to the harder drugs. Consider the (still highly profitable) marijuana business as a loss leader.
bassmaner brought it up
Why did you bring it up to me? Go talk to bassmaner about it.
they do not now sell legal-for-adults alcohol to teens.
he could grow his own. He could drive around with bales in the back seat.
All also true of alcohol, yet drug dealers don't sell it to teens.
He could lower his marijuana price,
So you're backing off your claim in post #47, "I'm talking about the drug dealer who, in addition to selling every illegal drug, will continue to sell marijuana to kids at the same price he did before legalization"?
keep and expand his teen customers, and still make a very tidy profit.
All also true of alcohol, yet drug dealers don't sell it to teens.
Plus, he's right there when they want to gateway to the harder drugs.
Recent studies by the RAND Corporation, and by economist Steven Pudney of the University of Leicester, have deflated the "gateway theory."
Of course not. I'm saying that he could lower his price and still make a tidy profit.
Then again, if legal marijuana will be as "hard to get" as alcohol, he'll be out of the marijuana business in no time flat. And for the same reason that he doesn't sell alcohol.
We'll see teen use of marijuana rise to the level of teen use of alcohol. Hey, like you care.
Could happen---if adult marijuana use rises tenfold after relegalization to equal adult alcohol use. I know of no reason to believe that will happen.
The usual liberal ad hominems.
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