Posted on 02/09/2015 7:40:58 AM PST by NYer
Obama was parroting the Muslim mantras given him by Jarrett!
Well, yes. That was the problem with secular authorities being subservient to the church under the era of "Christendom". Secular authorities being in charge without power flowing from the people is worse (communism). That's why we were so lucky to have founding fathers influenced by enlightenment. It corresponds to the free will given to us by our Creator.
Over the years I have implored people to do their own independent study of the Crusades, as I did, pre-9/11. Most people’s knowledge of the Crusades is typically skewed to be anti-Crusader, at least the people to whom I have spoken. My father in law, as an example, has described them, many times, as forerunners of organized crime, thugs. I have corrected him many times on the matter. I asked a woman I used to work with, for instance, which did she think was older, Christianity or Islam. Instantly she answered, “Well, Islam of course!” I then told her the truth. She admitted, “I should have known that.” Why? She majored in Religion — in college. I told her she should get her tuition back.
Chuckie wasn’t being critical of Obama. His exact comment was: “I have my own theory, he’s not a big fan of the prayer breakfast, I think, and I think he almost enjoys creating a rhetorical debate.”
And the way he said it, I think Todd enjoys seeing the debate.
Sadly, most of our “popular” history is garbage widely believed to be true even by the right. The most accurate history is history that hasn’t been hashed and rehashed a million times and made into thousands of books and movies.
Just mention the Salem witch trials and most conservatives believe religious fervor drove people to accuse dozens of women of being witches who were wrongly executed.
Yes women were accused of being witches by people who were puritans but witches were a widely held superstition of the time that had little to do with religion. In fact, no one was more aggressive in attempting to stamp it out than the church elders. Increase Mather wrote something along the lines of, ‘The Devil has arrived in Salem Village not in the form of witches but in the form of those who bear false witness’.
The fear of witches was simply an easy excuse to accuse others when the root of the accusations were far more earthly things like jealousy, greed, and lust. As far as the executions are concerned, I’ve been able to confim 3.
I'd remind you that it was not until the ratification of the US Constitution in 1789 that Church and State became two separate entities anywhere in the world.
Excellent ... bookmarked.
Long before the Crusades, starting with Mohammed to the present times, the Muslims have been committing unbelievable atrocities in the name of Allah and Islam. Jesus preached love, even for our enemies; Muhammad, with his scimitar in hand, ordered to behead or to burn alive the infidels that did not convert to Islam.
“But doesn’t Islam prohibit burning people alive? To answer this question, we need to first look at Muhammad, who spoke for Allah (4:80) and is considered the standard of perfect conduct for Muslims (33:21). Muhammad had no qualms about burning people.
In December 627 Muhammad led an attack against the Al-Mustalaq tribe. Because that tribe fought back, Muhammad ordered their fortifications to be set on fire, even though the Muslims knew there were women and children inside.
Around June 628, when Kinanah bin al-Rabi of the Jewish Bani al-Nadir tribe would not reveal where his conquered tribe’s treasures were hidden, Muhammad ordered one of his soldiers, “Torture him until you extract what he has,” so a fire was built on Kinanah’s chest until Kinanah nearly died.
In June 632, after Muhammad’s death, an attack on Ubna that he had earlier ordered took place. The leader of the Muslim force said,
… the Messenger of God commanded me and this was his last command to me: …to raid them, without inviting them [to Islam], and to destroy and burn.<>/P>
The Life of Muhammad: Al-Waqidi’s Kitab al-Maghazi, p. 549
And Muhammad even considered burning down Muslims’ houses around them to compel th
http://www.frontpagemag.com/2015/dr-stephen-m-kirby/islam-and-burning-people-alive/
What we need is a leader with the courage of Prince Vlad III of Wallachia.
His response to the infidel is still talked about today.
And the OP is an attempt at white washing the history of the Catholic Church.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_war
30,000 Ana-baptists were put to death by the Lutherans and Catholics in the late 16th century and early 17th over the doctrine of infant baptism.
The Spanish Armada (1588) was launched after Pope Sixtus V convinced the king of Spain to invade England. After the Pope’s assassination attempt on Queen Elizabeth I failed.
And that’s just a few examples in a long list.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vatican/esp_vatican29.htm#The%20Tortures
Catholic torture devices.
Straight out of well documented history.
And I’m supposed to believe this church is God’s true church? Really?
And why the US Constitution is viewed as tragic by the Roman Catholic Church to this day.
One can make “at least it isn’t as bad as” arguments and they would be correct. The Inquisition churches seemed to be satisfied if you didn’t stick your neck out opposing them even if you really didn’t believe.
But the problem is fundamental. Governments of secular lands were not in the mission statement of Christendom. Not until the literal return of Christ. The church should have politely declined such opportunities, offering to advise if invited, but never to govern or be viewed as a governing body.
“A time will come when those who slay you will think they are offering a service to God.”
Great Movie- Still waiting for part 2!
Great article.
He does have some interesting videos. I’d just like outside confirmation of his claims...although they make an awful lot of sense!
There are some good things in the video shown at that link....but I am still disgusted with this constant meme that, unlike Islam, Christianity reformed itself.
What kind of misinformation is this? It is so far from the truth. Christ came to save us from sin and redeem us. GOOD News!!! We are *reformed* as individuals as we take hold of the redemption that Jesus offers. We are to become a HOLY people united to our God and to one another. THIS is the real message of Christianity and it is completely distinct from all other religions. All Christians need to stand up and reject this attempt make Christianity “just another religion.”
Yes, what would Europe, and consequently the USA, look like if it weren’t for the Crusades? ...Sharia anyone? I can’t imagine...we should be deeply grateful. All wars have events perpetrated by individuals or groups of individuals that are unjust. That is very different than the reason for the initiative and the positive outcome on a global scale.
It is the dumbed-down morally relative belief that “all religions are the same, just about control”, that the whole “my God is better than your God” argument is why religion is bad. Of course the argument of “caused more deaths than anything in history” is complete garbage. Even for the “religious deaths” you still need to understand context, aggressive vs. defensive....big moral difference. These people can’t wrap their heads around the fact that a religion can really be a tyrannical political ideology hiding under the veil of religion...even if its followers don’t understand that. Their morally relative positive paralyzes their ability to see evil when confronted with it, they can’t identify the real problem - hence a POTUS who can’t name the enemy.
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