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What 'the state of theology' tells us about America: When asked whether they agreed that “Jesus was a great teacher …but not God,” 43% of Evangelicals answered 'yes'
Christian Post ^ | 09/27/2022 | John Stonestreet and Kasey Leander

Posted on 09/27/2022 10:53:30 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: TexasFreeper2009

A good analogy of the Trinity is the triple point of water. At a particular temperature and pressure water exists simultaneously as a solid and a liquid and a gas - the triple point.


41 posted on 09/27/2022 12:39:44 PM PDT by BigOrangeI (When did we run out of tar and feathers ??)
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To: SeekAndFind; Alex Murphy; boatbums; CynicalBear; daniel1212; ealgeone; Elsie; Gamecock; HossB86; ...

Ping


42 posted on 09/27/2022 12:44:25 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith….)
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To: brent13a

John 1


43 posted on 09/27/2022 12:52:39 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog. )
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To: SeekAndFind

Cut to the chase. John 1:1 encapsulates it completely. If you don’t get that, then you really aren’t a Christian. All this other drivel is adiophora.


44 posted on 09/27/2022 1:53:28 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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To: BigOrangeI; TexasFreeper2009

Jesus declared that he was “the light”

I interpret that as the light in Genesis 1:3

quote “And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light.”

So light has been with God since the beginning. And Jesus is the light. Just my personal belief.

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A good analogy of the Trinity is the triple point of water. At a particular temperature and pressure water exists simultaneously as a solid and a liquid and a gas - the triple point.

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The examples you both cited are excellent, each in their own way. Jesus with God in Genesis 1, at the very beginning, and the presence of the Trinity, in water, at the thermodynamic triple point. Love it.


45 posted on 09/27/2022 2:35:18 PM PDT by mund1011 (We can ignore reality, but we cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring reality)
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To: Jim Noble
He was who He said he was, or he was a liar and a psychopath. There’s no middle ground.

The dark side never learns because it already knows everything already.

He was and is who he said he is, not to be conflated with what the expert consensus committees have decided.

If the Messiah believed the settled doctrines, he'd never recognize himself.

Everything will be revealed in its due time.

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Join the Navi, see the world.

46 posted on 09/27/2022 2:55:00 PM PDT by Ezekiel (🆘️ "Come fly with US". Ingenuity -- because the Son of David begins with Mars ♂️, aka every man.)
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To: metmom

We’re in a bad state for sure.


47 posted on 09/27/2022 3:28:49 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: SeekAndFind

43% of Evangelicals call themselves ‘Christians’, but don’t believe in the Christ. Idiocy reigns in the 21st Century.


48 posted on 09/27/2022 4:36:38 PM PDT by Dr. Thorne (The Media is the Virus.)
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To: SeekAndFind

‘Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.’ Matthew 7:14


49 posted on 09/27/2022 4:42:00 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...siameserescue.org)
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Many posts here are steeped in the sixty year old wisdom of CS Lewis:

“I am trying here to prevent anyone saying the really foolish thing that people often say about Him [that is, Christ]: ‘I’m ready to accept Jesus as a great moral teacher, but I don’t accept His claim to be God.’ That is the one thing we must not say.

A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus said would not be a great moral teacher. He would either be a lunatic–on a level with the man who says he is a poached egg–or else he would be the Devil of Hell. You must make your choice. Either this man was, and is, the Son of God: or else a madman or something worse…. You can shut Him up for a fool, you can spit at Him and kill Him as a demon; or you can fall at His feet and call Him Lord and God. But let us not come up with any patronising nonsense about His being a great human teacher.

He has not left that open to us. He did not intend to.”


50 posted on 09/27/2022 4:50:32 PM PDT by KC Burke (If all the world is a stage, I would like to request my lighting be adjusted.)
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To: DannyTN

👍🤪


51 posted on 09/27/2022 5:00:00 PM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF pilot. USAF aviation runs in the family )
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To: DSH
To my mind, someone who affirms strongly the above propositions but who then does not accept the divinity of Jesus is, to say the least, one very confused "Christian."

Probably deluded too. 🤭🤪

52 posted on 09/27/2022 5:02:19 PM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF pilot. USAF aviation runs in the family )
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
The word “Christian” is loosely defined these days.

Maybe we need to redefine what an Evangelical Christian is.

53 posted on 09/27/2022 5:05:53 PM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF pilot. USAF aviation runs in the family )
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To: Mark17

I would agree with that even though labels make me ill.

One day we’ll just be called God’s Children.


54 posted on 09/27/2022 5:25:04 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: high info voter

...or unable to do so.


55 posted on 09/27/2022 7:28:24 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Jim W N

There have been several revival type movements in the last 100 years.

The Jesus moment was one of them.

But, yes there has been a great falling away in the last few decades.

Lukewarm feel good preachers multiplied.

It’s going to get worse before it gets better.

There will be a great awakening culminating in a Godly surge bringing us into a great change beginning at the turn of 2022 to 2023.

Not to negate most of your post, for which I thank you.


56 posted on 09/27/2022 7:56:46 PM PDT by Syncro (God is Good, Facts is Facts)
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To: Carl Vehse

The text from your link; Matt 7:22-23 KJV:

Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Yes, I believe there will be a lot of that.

And also a lot that will return to the Zeal of their First Love.


57 posted on 09/27/2022 8:07:59 PM PDT by Syncro (God is Good, Facts is Facts)
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To: Syncro

Here’s how I see the next few decades.

• Now - The Holy Spirit renewing the unmixed Gospel of the Grace of Christ among believers around the world. Joseph Prince, New Creation Church in Singapore, and Grace Revolution Church is Dallas are major players.
o Fulfils Jude 3
• Very soon – A worldwide incoming of souls to Jesus. People are tired of the judgment and condemnation of the law which is not part of the New Covenant of grace (Romans 6:14) and will embrace the compassionate free gift of salvation Jesus offers.
o Fulfils Luke 14:22-23
• Next - The world’s ship of state, so to speak, will have been righted by the wholesale return to the Lord our God. Peace and prosperity will abound. A blessing for the saved, but a trap for those who have refused Jesus.
o Fulfils Matthew 24:38; 2 Peter 3:3-4
• Next (in a few decades IMO) – the first part of the second coming of Jesus his saints (the great “catching up” AKA the “rapture” for the church). I believe it might be as many as ½ of the world hinted by Matt. 24:40-41. The projected population of the earth in 2070 is around 9 billion. That could mean that around 4.5 billion go to Heaven and about 4.5 billion are left behind. The Holy Spirt also leaves earth.

Daniel’s 70th Week AKA the seven-year tribulation follows ending with Armageddon in the second part of Christ’s second coming followed by his coronation as King of kings and Lord of lords.

I believe this, the 21st Century, will be the most amazing century ever ending with Jesus Christ sitting on the throne in Jerusalem as Ruler over the whole world.


58 posted on 09/28/2022 6:50:45 AM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: KC Burke

Is that from Mere Christianity?


59 posted on 09/28/2022 7:04:08 AM PDT by tnlibertarian
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To: marron
The definition of Evangelical does seem to be something the 'media pollers' are playing with, almost as if they seek to degrade the class they see as an obstacle to their 'great reset' agenda!

As pointed out by some posting on this thread not just reading it, John 1defeines Who Jesus -The Word made flesh Who dwelt among us, named God With Us by Old Testament prophets- is.

ONLY The Righteous God could make the perfect righteous sacrifice to atone for fallen man's sin nature. ONLY God can convey His Righteousness to a sinner, to cleanse his soul/spirit. If someone claims to be a Christian but does not believe The Word, they are not what they are claiming to be. We are seeing more and more of 'them' in these last days. They will soon witness the great departure of those who believe God and have been redeemed by the Perfect Righteousness stamped upon their spirit by the only One Who can do it.

60 posted on 09/28/2022 8:09:50 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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