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Blinding The Eyes Of Believers: The Perils Of Preterism
Harbingers Daily ^ | 8/26/23 | Jonathan Brentner

Posted on 08/27/2023 6:35:21 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal

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To: ealgeone
Adrian Rogers and Russell Kelfer are the one I listen to most. I also have recordings of Donald Barnhouse sermons that are good to listen to.

I catch the Rogers and Kelfer on Rejoice Radio and along with the music it's become a staple in my household, especially since Long Covid became a daily part of life.

21 posted on 08/27/2023 9:46:05 AM PDT by ducttape45 (Proverbs 14:34, "Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people.")
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To: G Larry
This veiled slam of Catholicism is typical.

Interesting take on this.

FTR--I was NOT thinking of Catholicism AT ALL while reading this. I WAS thinking of several Protestant sects.

22 posted on 08/27/2023 9:48:43 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack )
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To: 1of10

We’ll wait patiently for you to date set it for us I supposed since you’re post sounds coded.


23 posted on 08/27/2023 9:53:26 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: ShadowAce

RC Sproul is one of the worst offenders of Preterism.
Catholics fall into the trap too along with other Univeralists.


24 posted on 08/27/2023 9:56:13 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

I attended a Preterist church for a while, having no notion of what Preterism was. No only do they reject future prophecies, they reject Old Testament prophecies that prophesied of Christ’s first coming. Psalm 22 clearly speaks of Christ, not the Preterist pastor told me he knows of no one who believes that. I left.


25 posted on 08/27/2023 9:57:23 AM PDT by aimhigh (1 John 3:23 "And THIS is His commandment . . . . ")
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To: aimhigh

It’s scary what kind of doctrines are out there that any one of us could easily fall into.

By posting this, I’m not taking a swipe at those who adhere to it - but rather trying to get some unsuspecting folks to think of the complexity of Biblical Prophecy and how much is still left to be fulfilled. It easily changes ones outlook on your view of life, your work for the Lord, and how little time we really have left (all of us).

Really glad to hear The Spirit spoke to you and you did what you needed to to move on.

Bless you for sharing this!


26 posted on 08/27/2023 10:01:07 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

“date set it “

After you’ve studied a bit more you’ll find that “ But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.”

So trying to set dates would be fruitless.

But “Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;”

And then....

“For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

You’ll get it if you watch......


27 posted on 08/27/2023 10:55:30 AM PDT by 1of10 (be vigilant , be strong, be safe, be 1 of 10 .)
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To: G Larry
I agree with you .... 98%

Might I suggest that you reread Galatians..

And might I suggest that the “rapture” and the 2nd coming are the same event ?

Just food for thought.

28 posted on 08/27/2023 11:04:32 AM PDT by 1of10 (be vigilant , be strong, be safe, be 1 of 10 .)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Considering Jesus’ warnings in Matt. 24 about being deceived and Peter’s warnings about false teachers rising up within the church at the time of the end, discernment seems like it will be in short supply but the commodity most needed by believers as we accelerate to the close of the Age. As Keith Green sang regarding Satan, “I’m gonna make it dark before the dawn, cause no one believes in me anymore.” He’s going to give it his best shot - but it won’t stop Christ’s return! Trim your lamps, watch and pray and be faithful unto death. Jesus promised a rich reward!


29 posted on 08/27/2023 11:55:55 AM PDT by Lake Living
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
My, what a profound addiction some people have to the failure of the Gospel, at least in this age. Sad, sad, sad.

Get the time frame right, and the whole New Testament pops into vivid focus and makes sense. Get the time frame wrong, and you might well spiral into immediate irrelevance, and a much lower quality of life.

The state-of-the-art best eschatology, postmillennialism, usually includes some form of preterism. Most of the prophecies in the Olivet Discourse, and John's more detailed retelling of that discourse in prophetic (visual, right-brain) imagery, refers to the Jewish War, which lasted 7 years, started on schedule 40 years after Jesus pronounced God's pending judgment upon "this generation," and kicked the feet out from under the Kingdom of God's two chief enemies -- Rome, and apostate Israel.

Get the time frame right, and you can even explain Apocalypse to Turkish Muslims in a way that makes sense.

https://al-ve-oku.blogspot.com/2008/12/revelations-should-reveal.html

30 posted on 08/27/2023 12:25:59 PM PDT by TomEd (Her şey hazır! Buyrun, şölene!)
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To: ShadowAce

I was gonna say the same thing. No where in the article does it mentioned Catholicism does it?


31 posted on 08/27/2023 1:09:48 PM PDT by ducttape45 (Proverbs 14:34, "Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people.")
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

If the last 2,000 years is an example of Christ’s 1,000 year reign on earth, I am not impressed.

Scripture indicates a better situation that that.


32 posted on 08/27/2023 1:42:32 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: ealgeone

Chuck Swindoll is worth listening to, also.


33 posted on 08/27/2023 1:44:30 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: G Larry

Seriously, get over yourself.

Catholicism was not mentioned and here you are taking offense where none was given.

Catholics need to stop being such victims.


34 posted on 08/27/2023 1:48:27 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: TomEd
... kicked the feet out from under the Kingdom of God's two chief enemies -- Rome ...

At its height, in the second century AD, the Roman empire stretched all the way from Britain’s Atlantic coast to Mesopotamia in the east, and as far south as North Africa. More than a fifth of the world’s estimated population was under its governance.
35 posted on 08/27/2023 1:56:49 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 ( The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
I believe Catholics, by and large, fall into the Amillennial camp, as do most Lutherans, Anglicans, Wesleyans, and Reformed/ Presbyterian believers. They follow the interpretation of Augustine of Hippo, who thought the Book of Revelation to be largely allegorical. They are not preterists, partial or total. However, they believe that the church has replaced Israel permanently and that at this point, there is no end times role for that nation. However, the Westminster Larger Catechism states that the Jews will return to Christ before the Second Coming.

Preterism has its adherents among the Theonomist faction within Presbyterianism, such as Gary North, Rousas Rushdoony, etc. R.C. Sproul was not a theonomist but has supported this view in a book he wrote about 20 years ago. Outside the Theonomists, the Churches of Christ have some members who hold to a preterist position, despite being anti-Calvinist. They are something of an outlier among low church Protestants, such as Baptists, Pentecostal, and Bible church believers, who are premillennial and dispensational, for the most part.

36 posted on 08/27/2023 2:06:26 PM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: Big Red Badger

Just teasing, we’re going to the same heaven IMO.


37 posted on 08/27/2023 2:11:17 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: DesertRhino

A little vegetable Joke...
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But it’s Corney.
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From the CHOSEN


38 posted on 08/27/2023 2:18:46 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (The Truman Show)
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To: Big Red Badger

LOL.... perfect


39 posted on 08/27/2023 2:24:27 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: DesertRhino

I like the ‘Jesus’ in the Chosen.
He makes it Simple,Natural and Human.
We are All wandering in the Wilderness and I’m just happy Not having to eat Bugs!


40 posted on 08/27/2023 2:51:13 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (The Truman Show)
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