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OK California FReepers here we go. Are we going to sit back and just let this happen or is there anything that can be done about this! Cal Worthington we need you.
1 posted on 07/22/2002 9:44:45 AM PDT by jdontom
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Gov. Gray Davis to sign Strict Emissions Law

There go all the Mexican restaurants. Another slice of the Cal economy down the tubes.

33 posted on 07/22/2002 12:11:46 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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Back Door way to U.N Kyoto
38 posted on 07/22/2002 12:37:43 PM PDT by USA21
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Howdy

Insanity! This is unbelievable! Global warming due to atmospheric CO2 is not only unproven, it is very unlikely. Any scientist worthy of the name would be honest about the highly speculative status of the global warming scare.

Gives a whole new meaning to "political science".

If the world is warming of late, look at the prime mover, the sun! We are at a high point in solar output unmatched, if I am not mistaken, for a millenium. Still, NASA'a satelleite measurements of global temperatures indicate that the world is slightly cooler, not warmer.

Every year, three hundred billion tons of CO2 enter our atmosphere from natural sources, humanity contributes about one per cent of the total. In other words, our influence is two orders of magnitude removed from important CO2 sources. To a scientist, usually, an effect two orders of magnitude non dominant in a system is regarded as uninteresting. Make that, to a non politicized scientist.

Not that this matters, the "scientists" pretending to have certain knowledge that the Earth is warming due to human activity have no clue how much heat is retained by virtue of CO2 concentrations in the atmosphpere. That's right, the heat retentive properties of "greenhouse gasses" in the atmosphere are an UNKNOWN!!!!!

They can't account for variations in solar output, can't explain how humaity can contribute significantly to CO2 in the atmosphere, they can not demonstrate that the Earth is warming, and they don't even know how important CO2 is in determining Earth temperatures.

This is pathetic.

I can not say that global warming isn't happening, I can't say that human activity could affect global temperatures, I can only say with certainty that it is very improbable. I can also say with certainty that any "scientist" who claims certain knowledge of global warming is a damnable liar.

Last year, fewer children died on the highway than in any year in recent memory. Why? The SUV's are far more survivable in collisions than yugos. So here come the liberals, with pure speculation and hyperbole, to do what liberals do best.

Fill body bags with innocent children.

Shame on you gray davis.

42 posted on 07/22/2002 1:02:03 PM PDT by MoscowMike
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What wold happen is the Big Three
took the "Atlas Shrugged" idea and said Screw You!! I guess all that could be sold in Cal. would be little puddle jumbers from Japan.
45 posted on 07/22/2002 2:05:20 PM PDT by Springman
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"Grey-Out" Davis strikes again.
47 posted on 07/22/2002 3:15:31 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta
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I can see it now. Someone driving their Chevy Astro, transporting more than three packs of smokes into Cally, will get ten to life.

But then again, it's gonna be kinda hard to bring in illegals while driving the mandated Yugo - eh?

49 posted on 07/22/2002 5:48:44 PM PDT by Libloather
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81 percent of Californians favor the bill. Looks like the sheeple have been brainwashed well. They will give up their beloved SUV if they're told its "for the environment" or "for the children."
50 posted on 07/22/2002 6:37:47 PM PDT by goldstategop
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You can reach the author @ cbowman@sacbee.com.
53 posted on 07/22/2002 9:36:58 PM PDT by cinFLA
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Watching the so called Fair and Balanced report on Britt Humes show you would think this is a good bill. They called it a reduction in Globel warming. I thought I was watching Brian Williams. Where is the balance???
55 posted on 07/22/2002 9:58:32 PM PDT by Brimack34
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OK, What is the objective here? To reduce global warming, right? Let's suppose the enviro socialists achieve their goal and rid the planet of the internal combustion engine. One of two things is going to happen: 1) Global warming will cease and the earth will begin to cool. With this scenerio, to the enviro-socialists, the sky will be falling because we will be heading for another ice age. (I recall a fear of this in the '70's) 2) The earth will continue to warm and they will realize that the ICE had no bearing on the global warming after all. Doesn't it stand to reason that the earth would be warming since all evidence points to the fact that we are now coming out of an ice age of I don't know how many thousands of years ago? Besides, what is so bad about global warming? This means longer growing seasons and don't worry about the flooding...warmer weather means more evaporation into the atmosphere and more rain for the longer growing season. I am so pissed I could just spit...all we can do is stand back and watch this state implode.
56 posted on 07/22/2002 10:13:28 PM PDT by CAfraudPI
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The auto makers have an huge ace in the hole here if they will just have the guts and courage to play it! Davis and the liberals are betting they never would. The presidents of GM, Ford, ect... need to have a conference call which goes something like this: California stops this garbage or we pull every single one of our dealerships out of the state by 2009. Period. Call a press conference. Stand united, and tell the California wackos to ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
60 posted on 07/22/2002 10:54:46 PM PDT by mysonsfuture
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it broadens the scope of vehicle emissions regulation beyond pollutants shown to cause direct harm to people, such as cancer-causing diesel soot and smog.
The "greenhouse gas" bill before Davis targets carbon dioxide, methane and other auto emissions that are not hazardous to breathe but are believed by most scientists to trap the Earth's heat

Diesel cars generate much less smog, carbon dioxide, and methane per mile than gasoline cars.

Although diesel exhaust without filters (like old buses) may generate black particulate soot, which may contribute to "global warming" more than carbon dioxide, the AB1493 bill that Davis signed apparently concerns only harmless, odorless carbon dioxide and methane exhaust.

To reduce the emissions of those gases, diesel engines are logical replacements for gasoline; some large SUV's and light trucks already use diesel engines to reduce fuel tank size and to increase fuel economy.

I hope we don't get hit with huge class-action lawsuits in the future for the second-hand carcinogenic emissions of the increased number of diesel cars.

61 posted on 07/22/2002 11:06:14 PM PDT by heleny
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