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Author of Saudi Curriculums Advocates Slavery ("Slavery is a part of Islam," prominent scholar says)
Saudi Information Agency ^ | Nov. 7, 2003 | Ali Al-Ahmed

Posted on 11/09/2003 10:36:09 AM PST by Alouette

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To: Alouette
"As for your male and female slaves whom you may have: you may buy male and female slaves from among the nations that are round about you." (Leviticus 25:44)

"If a man lies carnally with a woman who is a slave, betrothed to another man and not yet ransomed or given her freedom, an inquiry shall be held. They shall not be put to death, because she was not free" (Leviticus 19:20)

"When a man strikes his slave, male or female, with a rod and the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. But if the slave survives a day or two, he is not to be punished; for the slave is his money." (Exodus 21:20-21)

"When you buy a Hebrew slave, he shall serve six years, and in the seventh he shall go out free, for nothing." (Exodus 21:2)

"O slave! Obey your masters in body with fear and trembling in your hearts as you do for Christ, not deceiving the eye as those who please people, but as slaves of Christ working God's will, serving with good intention as for God, not for people, knowing that whatever good you do, it will be accepted by God weather you were free or slave." (Ephesians1 6:5)

"Let all who are under the yoke of slavery regard their masters as worthy of all honor, so that the name of God and the teaching may not be defamed." (Timothy I 6:1)

21 posted on 11/09/2003 11:09:57 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: nosofar
Never met a black man that was ever comfortable with the idea of slavery in any form.

Do you mean a black Americans or do you include Africans, not that I would have expected you to meet meny of them?

Any of them really .... I've actually met a lot of Nigerians in my college days ....

Nice guys but chivalry is not exactly up on their list of things to do ....

And they all spoke letter perfect English.

22 posted on 11/09/2003 11:10:29 AM PST by Centurion2000 (Resolve to perform what you ought, perform without fail what you resolve.)
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To: Cultural Jihad
You're not really that ignorant, are you?
23 posted on 11/09/2003 11:29:19 AM PST by onedoug
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To: Centurion2000
"Wonder what Farrakhan thinks about this."

Good one.

I wonder why the dont stand at the US Anthem but do love Islam and its love of slavery.

Islam also tolerates murder.

In Saudi they just targeted their own fellow Islam Arabs CHILDREN.

The adults seem to worship in the evening during this satanic time called rama damn while its only the children that are at home.

24 posted on 11/09/2003 11:31:10 AM PST by Kay Soze ('Tis safer in the Suni triangle than in liberally controlled Los Angeles.)
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To: onedoug
No, I can read. Can't you?
25 posted on 11/09/2003 11:32:34 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
Care to name any Christian or Jewish clergy LIVING TODAY who endorse slavery?
26 posted on 11/09/2003 11:39:00 AM PST by Alouette (I have 9 kids)
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To: KantianBurke
"It took the might of WESTERN British Empire to cut that nonsense off."

Yup, the Brits stationed the most powerful fleet in the world off the African coast to stop slavery.

27 posted on 11/09/2003 11:42:51 AM PST by blam
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To: Cultural Jihad
I am not a biblical scholar so I cannot presume the context these refer to.

But I don't know that we have moved well beyond this as Christians.

Islam has not advanced in any human or Godly endeavors nor has its practitioners.
28 posted on 11/09/2003 11:45:27 AM PST by Kay Soze ('Tis safer in the Suni triangle than in liberally controlled Los Angeles.)
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To: Alouette
“Slavery is a part of Islam,” he says in the tape, adding: “Slavery is part of jihad, and jihad will remain as long there is Islam.”

From his own mouth he has stated what must be done. To merge his own words with a quote from old "Slavery is part of jihad, and jihad will remain as long there is Islam - Then let it exist no more! So let it be written so let it be done!"

29 posted on 11/09/2003 11:51:13 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Kay Soze
don't should read "do" .

I also am waiting for a current web link to an article written by a man of similar authority within the Christian circles advocating slavery.

just one.

Should not take more than a few minutes via google.


30 posted on 11/09/2003 11:52:53 AM PST by Kay Soze ('Tis safer in the Suni triangle than in liberally controlled Los Angeles.)
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To: Cultural Jihad
Al-Maliki, who worked for the ministry of education, was fired after he wrote a 50- page paper criticizing Al-Fawzan’s book “Al-Tawheed”.

31 posted on 11/09/2003 11:54:29 AM PST by Kay Soze ('Tis safer in the Suni triangle than in liberally controlled Los Angeles.)
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To: Cultural Jihad
Then you should know the differences in how the ancient Hebrews anchored Western civilization and today. Temple sacrifice and polygamy are no longer practiced therein either.
32 posted on 11/09/2003 11:58:12 AM PST by onedoug
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To: blam
No they had no need to position their fleet.

We as the single most powerful and technologically advanced nation the planet has yet seen cannot patrol a much smaller area (Mexican border) with any degree of success.

More efficient was to go to the source- the desire for slavery and attack it there.
33 posted on 11/09/2003 12:00:31 PM PST by Kay Soze ('Tis safer in the Suni triangle than in liberally controlled Los Angeles.)
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To: Alouette
“Slavery is part of jihad, and jihad will remain as long there is Islam are infidels.”

Conform or die.

34 posted on 11/09/2003 12:09:35 PM PST by weegee
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To: VOA
I still think it horrid that American Southerners who went to church each Sunday had to be convinced by war to give up the practice of slavery..

Are you working for Dean. For one to tar every southern person with this statement is outrageous.

35 posted on 11/09/2003 12:12:17 PM PST by org.whodat
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To: xrp
They didn't. Abolitionist movements led by Christians in the North and South would have had slavery eradicated in the United States within another 20-30 years. The Civil War was about states rights, not slavery.

Shhh! You're not allowed to say that because we, the sheeple, don't want it to be true.
36 posted on 11/09/2003 12:24:58 PM PST by Thoro ("No one's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session."-Samuel Clemens)
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To: Alouette
“Slavery is a part of Islam,” he says in the tape, adding: “Slavery is part of jihad, and jihad will remain as long there is Islam.”

Of course that's not really what he meant.
Just ask President Bush and our State Department.

As for me, I would respond that if slavery is inevitable, I would rather the sandmaggots be the slaves.
Historically, the losers have always been.

37 posted on 11/09/2003 12:54:30 PM PST by Publius6961 (40% of Californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
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To: KantianBurke
It took the might of WESTERN British Empire to cut that nonsense off.

It did?
Why, then, does it still exist?

38 posted on 11/09/2003 1:25:43 PM PST by Publius6961 (40% of Californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
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To: Publius6961
see post #15
39 posted on 11/09/2003 1:29:46 PM PST by KantianBurke (Don't Tread on Me)
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To: Cultural Jihad
What a banal post.

Comparing 2000 year-old customs to contemporary ones.

Really an intellectual tour de force.

40 posted on 11/09/2003 1:37:13 PM PST by Publius6961 (40% of Californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
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