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GOP leaders unlikely to pursue new avenues to keep Schiavo alive
kansascity.com ^ | Wed, Mar. 23, 2005 | JEFF ZELENY

Posted on 03/24/2005 11:02:42 AM PST by Destro

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To: GOPcapitalist

add me to the list of the duped. It's the law. Don't like the law, work to get it changed.


21 posted on 03/24/2005 11:37:37 AM PST by Trust but Verify (Pull up a chair and watch history being made.)
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To: Vicomte13
If they don't, the Republican party will split. The pro-life Christians will have been definitively betrayed and, demoralized, they will sit out the next election, or vote for a new "Pro-life party" or the like.

It's already split away; take a look at the polls; the vast majority of conservatives in the GOP do NOT approve of what Congress did.

And people who sit out get what they deserve, nothing.

22 posted on 03/24/2005 11:39:37 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin

But those nurses SWORE they were telling the truth! That means we have to believe them, you know. Besides, whatever bad things are said about Michael we are compelled to believe.


23 posted on 03/24/2005 11:40:21 AM PST by Trust but Verify (Pull up a chair and watch history being made.)
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To: Howlin

It's mass hysteria fed by nuts and vultures circling around the parents.

That nurse was nuts. Had conversations with Terri? Sheesh.


24 posted on 03/24/2005 11:41:03 AM PST by Shermy
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To: Destro

I have a feeling that Terry has been doing the stirring for the last week or so.

BTW, he is now "the" official spokesman for the Schindler family. *Rolling my eyes*


25 posted on 03/24/2005 11:42:27 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Trust but Verify
add me to the list of the duped. It's the law. Don't like the law, work to get it changed.

An unjust law is unfit to stand. The law killing Schaivo is unjust, therefore let it be damned.

26 posted on 03/24/2005 11:43:01 AM PST by GOPcapitalist ("Marxism finds it easy to ally with Islamic zealotism" - Ludwig von Mises)
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To: Trust but Verify

Besides, the Florida legislature DID change the law two years ago to protect Schaivo, so you cannot claim that a change in the law has not been attempted. The judicial thugs on the Florida Supreme Court threw it out. Thus they have not only upheld an unjust and therefore illegitimate law - they have also blocked an attempt by the legislature to make that law just, thereby sustaining the original unjust law.


27 posted on 03/24/2005 11:45:29 AM PST by GOPcapitalist ("Marxism finds it easy to ally with Islamic zealotism" - Ludwig von Mises)
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To: GOPcapitalist
What is unjust about it? Don't you think this and similar laws are applied almost daily all over the country? What kind of law would you have? Where the government gets to make the decision for the family?

That's not America.

28 posted on 03/24/2005 11:47:06 AM PST by Trust but Verify (Pull up a chair and watch history being made.)
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To: Destro
RE: "President Bush and congressional leaders said Wednesday they had exhausted their options and could find no new political avenues to prolong the life of Terri Schiavo"

I am not surprised the GOP "can not" (translation: will not) do more. I would have been surprised if they had done something to give Terri her Constitutional rights.

Hearings on the abuses of the Judiciary - not gonna see um.
Cut staffing budget to the Courts - not gonna see it.
Redraw Federal districts to make their jobs less secure - nope not gonna happen.
Impeachment of the worse offenders - your kiddin me right, not gonna, not now, no not never.

To do any of these things (all within the Constitutional power of the GOP controlled Congress) would remove the political cover they value so highly.

Judicial Tyranny and the murder of Terri Schiavo during the GOP watch. But the Social Security Crisis has been averted
29 posted on 03/24/2005 11:47:29 AM PST by Mark in the Old South (Sister Lucia of Fatima pray for us)
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To: Destro
A CBS News poll released Wednesday showed that 82 percent of Americans believe neither Congress nor the president should have intervened. And among people who describe themselves as evangelicals, more than two-thirds of respondents said Bush and lawmakers should stay out of the case.

Word up!

30 posted on 03/24/2005 11:48:19 AM PST by Drango (All my ideas, good or bad, are stolen from other FReepers)
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To: Destro

Sorry, Greer disallowed statements from nurses and doctors stating that Terri could respond to therapy as well as other statements... On top of that, once the possibility of abuse came into the picture, the whole situation was changed. If he is allowed to succeed, due process is done.

Mike


31 posted on 03/24/2005 11:50:08 AM PST by BCR #226
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To: Trust but Verify
What is unjust about it?

The fact that it violates the principle of a double effect and sanctions error other than that on the side of caution.

Don't you think this and similar laws are applied almost daily all over the country?

The scope of injustice no more makes its act just than the scope of abortion makes it anything other than killing.

What kind of law would you have? Where the government gets to make the decision for the family?

Four out of five most immediate family members, all of them Schaivo's blood relatives, were completely excluded from the decision process. Thus the "family" you claim to have made this decision is in reality one single person: Michael Schaivo.

32 posted on 03/24/2005 11:51:00 AM PST by GOPcapitalist ("Marxism finds it easy to ally with Islamic zealotism" - Ludwig von Mises)
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To: Drango

Have you seen that poll? I'd like to see it.


33 posted on 03/24/2005 11:51:06 AM PST by Howlin
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To: GOPcapitalist

The guardian appointed by Jeb Bush, pursuant to that law, said she should be allowed to die.


34 posted on 03/24/2005 11:53:11 AM PST by ambrose (....)
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To: Destro
Overreach?

No surprise you're down on this. The Ruskies practically invented death by starvation for political purposes, after all.
35 posted on 03/24/2005 11:53:22 AM PST by Antoninus (In hoc signo, vinces †)
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That is/was Wolfson?


36 posted on 03/24/2005 11:54:47 AM PST by onyx (Robert Frost "Good fences make good neighbors." Build the fence, Mr. President and Congress.)
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To: Destro

No. Lack of Cojones.


THe simple fact is, the Branches of Government are COEQUAL.

The Executive of Florida, OR the United States, should EXECUTE THE LAW AS THEY SEE FIT, and MAKE THE COURTS Sue them.

SCOTUS would be forced to Rule, or by their inaction Let Terri live.Whcih would still be a ruling.


37 posted on 03/24/2005 11:55:50 AM PST by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "For your AMUSEMENT..." ; ))
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To: Howlin
It's already split away; take a look at the polls; the vast majority of conservatives in the GOP do NOT approve of what Congress did.

You know quite well that these "polls" are utterly bogus--they are push polls conducted on an ignorant population by the pro-death media.

Want a real indication of where the base of the party stands on the issue? Look at the various FR polls--practically all of them show an 80%-20% vote in favor of the various efforts to save Terri.
38 posted on 03/24/2005 11:56:42 AM PST by Antoninus (In hoc signo, vinces †)
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To: Vicomte13

The judges acted in strict accordance to the law - they followed Flrida law. This is in fact NOT a case of judicial activisim.


39 posted on 03/24/2005 11:57:00 AM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Destro
I called Frist's office this morning and suggested he get himself home from New Hampshire and take care of getting the President Judge's confirmed.

The guy tells me Frist is home for the Easter holiday.

Told him that he seemed to have time to do a medical diagnosis via edited videotape and time to go to New Hampshire to campaign, too bad he had no time for the job he has.

40 posted on 03/24/2005 11:58:06 AM PST by OldFriend ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child might have peace." Thomas Paine)
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