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Towards a new test of general relativity?
European Space Agency ^ | 23 March 2006 | Staff

Posted on 03/25/2006 11:13:27 AM PST by PatrickHenry

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To: doc30
Then again, there are many on FR who believe that taxes should not be spent on R&D and your observation is what they desire.

The current problem with taxes being spent on research is that the research will get done by Asian grad students

And when the research is complete, the ideas on what to do with the results will go back to Asia with them

81 posted on 03/26/2006 6:22:52 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the hubris to think they will be the planners)
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To: beezdotcom; PatrickHenry; Quark2005
They took their inspiration from superconductivity.

Did they? I could have sworn they took their inspiration from Tampere, Finland!

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This looks like it could be a Nobel Prize in the making, if the results turn out to be valid.

Perhaps -- but I don't think these guys would be the claimants!

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Somehow, it reminds me of this: The Podkletnov Gravitational-Shield. That gives me pause.

That was my first thought too.

What a strange coincidence that they'd come up with what sounds pretty much like an exact duplcate of Podkletnov's work -- except that Podkletnov had the jump on them by ten years!

Didn't I read something about 4 or 5 years ago about NASA working with his theories?

I have not kept up on any of this, and am by no means qualified to weigh in on the merits of Podkletnov's claims, however, I don't think it takes a rocket scientist (or "advanced propulsion theoretician") to see the striking similarities between the two experiments (i.e., rotating superconductors acting as gravity modifiers).

82 posted on 03/26/2006 9:18:37 PM PST by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget; beezdotcom; PatrickHenry; Quark2005

http://esamultimedia.esa.int/docs/gsp/Experimental_Detection.pdf


Lots more details.

Ahah! Page 19 & 20 (the very end of a long list of references):


21Podkletnov, E., and Nieminen, R., A Possibility of Gravitational Force Shielding by Bulk YBa2Cu3O7-x Superconductor. Physica C 203, 441-444 (1992). 2021Podkletnov, E., and Nieminen, R., A Possibility of Gravitational Force Shielding by Bulk YBa2Cu3O7-x Superconductor. Physica C 203, 441-444 (1992).

22Podkletnov, E., Weak Gravitational Shielding Properties of Composite Bulk YBa2Cu3O7-x Superconductor Below 70 K under EM Field. cond-mat/9701074. 22Podkletnov, E., Weak Gravitational Shielding Properties of Composite Bulk YBa2Cu3O7-x Superconductor Below 70 K under EM Field. cond-mat/9701074.



83 posted on 03/26/2006 11:07:40 PM PST by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: Don Joe
Ahah! Page 19 & 20 (the very end of a long list of references):

Good work - that proves you're not nearly as lazy as me.
84 posted on 03/27/2006 9:04:12 AM PST by beezdotcom
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To: bobdsmith

Which means that they are being honest.

They've found something cool that they don't fully understand, and they are throwing it out there to the physics community, via the peer-review process, in the hopes that others can reproduce the experiments and/or make sense out of it.


85 posted on 03/27/2006 9:25:31 AM PST by Constantine XIII
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The paper addresses the "gavitational shield" -- the effect discussed in the paper in an entirely different way. Where Podkletnov said that a spinning superconductor reduces the gravitational field above it, this effect is due to a superconducting ring undergoing angular acceleration. The new force acts in the same direction as the acceleration - tangentially to the edge superconducting ring rather than above its axis of rotation.


86 posted on 03/27/2006 9:31:56 AM PST by Constantine XIII
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

It's in binary.


87 posted on 03/27/2006 9:34:18 AM PST by js1138 (~()):~)>)
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To: PatrickHenry

This looks like fun.


88 posted on 04/03/2006 6:53:20 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: AdmSmith
You may be on to something, but I don't see how we would have spotted anything from here unless we had an idea what to look for.

Maybe this research will give somebody an idea.

From your link:

For example, maybe you get a warm feeling when you contemplate high-temperature superconductors, with critical temperatures around 100 K? Hah! The protons in the center of neutron stars are believed to become superconducting at 100 million K, so these are the real high-T_c champs of the universe.

89 posted on 04/03/2006 7:01:02 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: <1/1,000,000th%
Yes, this might give the astronomers somethimng to look for, but my guess is that this story is not worth a tree. But, so far I have only seen environmentally friendly recirculated electrons.;-)

Furthermore it is not easy to make the sensors and a lot of things can be wrong with the equipment
90 posted on 04/03/2006 4:05:52 PM PDT by AdmSmith
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