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Guns, or Lack of Them, in Israel-Do we have to say never again โ€“ again?
Frontpagemagazine ^ | 10-25-23 | Barney Brenner

Posted on 10/25/2023 7:48:06 AM PDT by SJackson

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1 posted on 10/25/2023 7:48:06 AM PDT by SJackson
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All-female Israeli 'lionesses' combat unit of just 13 soldiers 'killed nearly 100 Hamas gunmen as they helped liberate kibbutz'

2 posted on 10/25/2023 7:50:42 AM PDT by SJackson (In a war of ideas it is people who get killed.)
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To: SJackson

Israel and Nazi Germany both distrust(ed) Jews and prefer their slaughter to self defense. Israel has a death wish and will not learn.


3 posted on 10/25/2023 7:53:31 AM PDT by Badboo (A fascist is the one who wants to take your guns. That's how it always starts.)
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To: SJackson

The Islamic monsters knew the Kibbutz people were generally unarmed. That is why they attacked. We might be on the door steps of World War 3 because the Israeli government supporetd gun control against their own people. How did that work out for them,..and the rest of us?


4 posted on 10/25/2023 7:59:05 AM PDT by Lockbar (Even when you think you finally have enough ammo, you still really don't have enough. )
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To: SJackson

The author is certainly correct in that Israeli citizens need to be armed. But there is a big problem. Roughly 18% of Israelis are Muslim. Is their first loyalty to Israel, or to their Jew-hating religion? I think we all know the answer to that.

So do you only arm Jewish Israelis? Would such a law pass the Knesset?


5 posted on 10/25/2023 8:00:08 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: SJackson
The problem is that Israel is 18% muslim. I would not want to arm potential jihadis.

I would tie gun rights to military service in the IDF, which would eliminate most muslims. Veterans should have rights to own/carry any weapon they wish. This includes muslims who served in the IDF.

6 posted on 10/25/2023 8:01:48 AM PDT by 10mm
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To: Badboo

Self loathing progressive Jews should bear some responsibility. But, they’ll keep voting the democommies in.


7 posted on 10/25/2023 8:04:56 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this๐Ÿ’ฉ? ๐Ÿšซ๐Ÿ’‰! ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ๐Ÿ‘!)
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To: 10mm

Agree
BUT didn’t I read that people who served in IDF got to keep a weapon when they left service?
Where were those weapons?


8 posted on 10/25/2023 8:05:23 AM PDT by RWGinger (FJB)
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To: Badboo

‘Never Again’—— Again!
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Think about That for a moment.
6 million.


9 posted on 10/25/2023 8:05:24 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (The Truman Show)
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To: RWGinger

They still require a permit which is an arduous process. Even then, they may only own one handgun and 50 rounds of ammunition.


10 posted on 10/25/2023 8:11:12 AM PDT by 10mm
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To: SJackson

Is it possible that it isn’t typical lib crappola about guns but that they simply can’t trust certain segments of their citizenry to fight on the right side in an invasion type scenario? I have never seen anyone official argue there is a tactical demographic reason, although maybe it’s something they wouldn’t like to admit publicly. Is it something that just isn’t talked about or what?

They accept foreign military aid for their high-tech weapon systems, but it seems like allowing their populace to effectively arm themselves would be a pretty cheap way to at least have a fighting chance when people with rifles are at the door.

Freegards


11 posted on 10/25/2023 8:11:40 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: Badboo
Israel has a death wish and will not learn.

I read where many Israelis are flocking to gun stores, to buy weapons, so, maybe some of them get it.

12 posted on 10/25/2023 8:14:29 AM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF Captain & pilot. Both bitten by the aviation bug)
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To: Ransomed
Is it something that just isnโ€™t talked about or what?Yes. Generally those allowed to own arms are former military and police, security guards and citizen residents of the West Bank or those with a need. Eliminating those restrictions for all Israeli citizens would include the 20% or so Muslim population.

As to lib crappola about guns that's probably a factor, but it's my understanding Israel largely maintained the British laws regarding firearms, virtually no ownership, and loosened them over the years.

13 posted on 10/25/2023 8:17:33 AM PDT by SJackson (In a war of ideas it is people who get killed.)
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To: Lockbar

Not to besmirch the people of Israel, but videos of the young people dancing could have been a burning man event.


14 posted on 10/25/2023 9:10:20 AM PDT by DownInFlames (P)
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To: RWGinger
You may be thinking of Switzerland.


15 posted on 10/25/2023 9:29:50 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Big Red Badger

Didn’t learn a damn thing.


16 posted on 10/25/2023 9:30:48 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: PROCON

Ping.


17 posted on 10/25/2023 9:33:20 AM PDT by Joe Brower ("Might we not live in a nobler dream than this?" -- John Ruskin)
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To: DownInFlames

“Not to besmirch the people of Israel, but videos of the young people dancing could have been a burning man event.”

Not a care in the world...for another 10 minutes.


18 posted on 10/25/2023 9:33:59 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Bonemaker

Normalcy Bias
Abused Wife Syndrome
Turn the other cheek
Not my backyard
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Schindlers List had that Accountant
Fellow with a weird personality——
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I don’t know FRiend...
Seems one could stack the cattle cars
Up and have a waiting line to board.


19 posted on 10/25/2023 10:25:29 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (The Truman Show)
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To: SJackson
In the last couple of days, constraints were further loosened

Yeah, what's that old saying about closing the barn door.

20 posted on 10/25/2023 10:31:41 AM PDT by bgill
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