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Severed head video gives insight into cruel psychology of terrorists
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| 12/30/01
Posted on 12/29/2001 3:48:31 PM PST by NativeNewYorker
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To: Cicero;SBeck
"...The grisly highlights include the beheading with a knife of a hostage in Chechnya and a prisoner being tortured with a sizzling piece of metal. Another close-up shows a victims tongue being cut out. .."cicero's comment: "...Nice. Wonder what Noam Chomsky would say about this? Just a bit of harmless multiculturalism, no doubt. Or as the Supreme Court declared in its Casey decision defending abortion, each individual has the right to make up his own morality and interpret the universe as he sees fit. So, no doubt this kind of behavior is OK for Arabs...."
SBeck's comment: "...The beheading of the Russian soldier is one of the most gruesome things I've ever seen..."
Yes, it's all very gruesome and Arabic. But I seem to recall, long ago and far away (about two years ago) when moslem terrorists from Chechnya bombed an apartment complex in Russia, the "experts" in the US government and corporate media suggested the tragedy was a Russian prank and continued to fund and arm the "freedom fighters"--just as they armed and trained the moslem Albanian "freedom fighters" in Kosovo and Bosnia.
So, If my tax dollars are used, by my duly elected, government, to finance and arm gruesome, Arabic head-hunters, is there blood on my hands, or only on my money's hands?
"...In spring 1995 one of our Russian special services gave the Russian media a transcript of radio intercepts of conversations between Dudayev and Udugov, probably to show that the regime in Chechnya is truly a gangster regime. The effect was staggeringly negative. First, this had absolutely no effect on the pro-Dudayev media. And second, the United States sent special equipment to the bandits in Chechnya via the territory of Germany and Turkey and for a long time this prevented our special services from monitoring the gunmen's talks...."
Link to above quotation.
To: VMI70
Basically, I think these videos ought to be broadcast on Al Jezeera. ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, CNN, MSNBC, et al. Let the Muslim world find out what these thugs Muslims are really like. Let people watch this stuff while eating their dinners. Our broadcasters are only interested in televising American conducted executions. Seeing footage like the tapes that have been seized could lead to more people understanding a death sentence.
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posted on
12/29/2001 4:46:43 PM PST
by
weegee
To: LaBelleDameSansMerci
Sound questions. Unfortunately, I don't think you'll ever get an answer.
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posted on
12/29/2001 4:49:55 PM PST
by
SBeck
To: nicmarlo
"Islam is a peaceful, loving religion." It's obvious by the respect they show for the dead. Pay them back by "tainting" their deceased with pigs' entrails. Nothing wrong with that. Geneticists will tell you that it is just dead tissue...
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posted on
12/29/2001 4:51:40 PM PST
by
weegee
To: SBeck
I tried the video link but get an error. Anyone else have any luck??
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posted on
12/29/2001 4:57:21 PM PST
by
fso301
To: oldvike
Is it a Quicktime .mov file. I've read elsewhere that MS IE 5 (or is it 5.5 or both?) has disabled the ability to play this content from a webpage. There is a download that is supposed to correct this.
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posted on
12/29/2001 4:57:33 PM PST
by
weegee
To: SBeck
That should be required viewing for all the muslim apologists in this country, from the top down.
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posted on
12/29/2001 4:57:45 PM PST
by
meadsjn
To: SBeck
Oh my dear God. Despite your warning, I clicked the link. It's beyond words. I had to dump out of it. I hate those bastards. They are inhuman. They must be stopped. I don't care what it takes.
To: nicmarlo
Well...they will have an eternity to realize the error of their way...and what they did to him is only a drop in the ocean for what is coming to them. His pain was over fairly quickly...they shall gnash teeth for all eternity.
To: NativeNewYorker
I know there is no way I can look at this video.
Thankfully I do not need to be convinced that these people are animals, with all due apologies to domesticated creatures.
These are the actions of pure raw EVIL, and there can be no way that a loving God of any kind could condone such despicable acts.
The more I learn about this enemy, the more disturbing what we are facing becomes, since they are living among us.
To: fso301
If you don't have QuickTime you can download it here: http://www.apple.com.
Another suggestion is to try Netscape vice IE.
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posted on
12/29/2001 4:59:16 PM PST
by
SBeck
To: Cicero
The grisly highlights include the beheading with a knife of a hostage in Chechnya and a prisoner being tortured with a sizzling piece of metal. Another close-up shows a victims tongue being cut out. We need to ask ourselves what we've done to these people to make them have such anger. We need to try to understand them. [barf!]
To: Trust but Verify
Yes, and a lot of al Qaeda's fighters come from Chechenya. I was asked when I was first sent the video to identify the language and the closest I could get to was Georgian, but I know I'm wrong. It was very difficult to listen to.
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posted on
12/29/2001 5:02:37 PM PST
by
SBeck
To: NELSON111
they will have an eternity to realize the error of their way...and what they did to him is only a drop in the ocean for what is coming to them. His pain was over fairly quickly...they shall gnash teeth for all eternity. I am not one who prays for another's torment in hell, but with these heinous butchers, I shall pray for them eternal damnation and torture.
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posted on
12/29/2001 5:02:54 PM PST
by
nicmarlo
To: Trust but Verify
Yes, and a lot of al Qaeda's fighters come from Chechenya. I was asked when I was first sent the video to identify the language and the closest I could get to was Georgian, but I know I'm wrong. It was very difficult to listen to.
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posted on
12/29/2001 5:03:31 PM PST
by
SBeck
To: weegee
Thanks weegee, that"s my problem no Quicktime I just dumped it yesterday because of conflicts. Will try it again!
To: DWSUWF
I honestly, sincerely, genuinely do NOT believe that this 'allah' is the God of Jews and Christians. Which is exactly why I'm looking for a new church. My brief and recent encounter with the ELCA has been terminated because of a "Merry Christmas, Happy Hannikah, and a Happy Ramadan" from the pulpit. Those ELCA blokes are really pretty far out there in "Lotus Land".
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posted on
12/29/2001 5:06:29 PM PST
by
GingisK
To: LuigiBasco
You're lucky. All I got was the old hourglass and frozen screen. And I'm on DSL! You're the lucky one....I'll have nightmares for a week after seeing that.
To: weegee
I have IE 5.5. No problem with video.
To: GingisK
"...Which is exactly why I'm looking for a new church..." The moslems have been very successful selling the west on the idea that their 'god' is God.
I'll admit that, until recently, I never really gave it much thought myself.
I was as tolerant of moslems as anyone. For many years I guilelessly accepted, at face value, their claims that their god was simply a different vision of the One who I recognize as the one true God. But they went over the top, again and again with their lunacy until I simply couldn't give them that benefit of the doubt any more. Since that time Ive concluded that this isnt a case of a legitimate religion being sullied by errant followers
Quite the contrary, it is clearly a malevolent cult that corrupts most of its thralls.
At this point I wouldn't tolerate any of their filthy, obscene writings or cultic instruments in any realm that I control, any more than I'd tolerate any less ambiguously Satanic artifacts at close quarters.
'moslems need not apply' sums it up nicely for me and mine.
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posted on
12/29/2001 5:33:41 PM PST
by
DWSUWF
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