Posted on 02/20/2002 6:08:45 AM PST by Magician
Sorry...
You WODDIES are a real piece of work. You skewer God's Word, you butcher the Constitution, you put your slimey beak all OVER other folks' business and then have the nerve to get all offended when we tell you to knock off your sh!t!!! AS LONG AS SOMEONE DOES NOT PRESENT A DIRECT THREAT TO THE HEALTH OR SAFETY OF ANOTHER, WHAT THAT PERSON PUTS INTO HIS OR HER BODY IS NONE OF YOUR DAMNED BUSINESS, NO MATTER WHAT YOU THINK. There is NO provision in the Constitution of the United States of America for Congress or the Executive Branch or the Courts to override the Bill of Rights or the express words of the 10th amendment in order to PROHIBIT POSSESSION AND USE OF ANYTHING WHATSOEVER that does not in and of itself violate the rights of others, which dashes your usual "child porn" argument. Nor does the Common Law, which forms a good portion of AMerican Jurisprudence, allow for such misbehaviour on the part of Government. Considering that the War on Americans, called a war on drugs, is in actuality nothing more than a means for CONTROL OVER THE WHOLE POPULACE, and considering that it began in 1914 as a means of controlling the "undesirable" elements of society, blacks, mexicans, chinese, etc., and continued under Harry Anslinger as a means of keeping himself and other former Prohibition agents employed, I am at a loss as to how ANYONE who says they are CONSERVATIVE can support such ANTI-Constitutional behaviours! There is and WAS at the time NO MEDICAL REASON for prohibiting some drugs. It is all about CONTROL OVER OTHERS. Is that what this nation was founded on? (Aside from the travesty of slavery!) How can YOU, CJ, Dane, et al, condone such behaviour and call yourselves Conservatives? WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO CONSERVE?
As an aside, many, if not MOST of the ANTI-Constitutional Victim Disarmament edicts were passed for the purpose of controlling the "NON-WHITE" segments of the populace, as well. Evil begetting evil. And you support this sort of nastiness.
I suspect that you will do your usual name-calling and baiting and such, but if you have a weak moment when truth wants to boil out of you, try speaking to the points and not to your usual drivel McNuggets.
Thats why I replied that if THEY are against abortion(Which is a government law.) then they must be EVIL as well.
I was not talking about the issue itself, I was attacking thier reasoning(Or lack thereof).
I dont discuss abortion issues in general because it arouses heated arguments. Both sides feel right and there is no talking about it between them. I was just making a point.
Keep up the poetry, it makes things nicer. :D
Excellant post!
The current argument on this thread seems to focus on "undesirable" tpes. Pot-heads are one of those. I am against drug-addled people acting insane in public but alcohol is DEFINATELY the top reason for said behavior.
Hell, if ANYONE is acting like a loon then the police should come.
My main point is that more drunks act like loons then any other drug abusers. they should be punished if they break the law but if they want to get BLOTTO in thier own home, then fine.
Pot smokers are MUCH more law abiding then heavy drinkers and that is the fact. Hell, these guys probably want me to stop smoking for my own good. I can do that for myself.
On a final note to any observers... we are only taking about three to four freepers that are arguing here. It is not nearly representative of the whole.
You can belive this or not, but most people associate "Libertarians" with drug legalisation and validation. [Emphasis mine]
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain/parenthesis. ;^)
You can belive this or not, (because almost everybody knows that I, Dane, will fabricate whatever rationalizations will serve my agenda) but most people associate "Libertarians" with drug legalisation and validation.
But there's a what if here:
A lot of Dims are in total denial about their party's history here, and think that the 'religious right' is the only reason pot wasn't relegalized years ago... They don't have a lot to run on, so why wouldn't they?
Both sides of the aisle have vested interest in the WOD. They know, even if just by strategic reminders, what it means to "play" no-holds-bared hardball when turning against the drug lords whom they've catered not to mention turning against those in government that they've empowered to plunder in the name of the WOD. Also, there's massive corporate interest/money in maintaining hemp's illegal status -- the oil companies among them.
Perhaps the most compelling reason to maintain the illegal status of marijuana is that to decriminalize or even if they were to just legalize it that would set an irreversible wedge-like crack in their authoritarian control foundation. Once the foundation is cracked the power lost transfers back to the people and has their eyes set on driving the wedge deeper to abolish the IRS and income tax to be replaced with a national retail sales tax. Transferring even more power back to the people. At that point, heard off in the distance is the fat lady preparing to sing.
In the end I don't think it matters how it becomes decriminalized or legalized. The end result will be the same.
This may be fun ... or not . In an imaginary WOD concentration camp what roles would CJ VA CA and Dane have. I will start ... Dane would be Sargent Shultz. Not really evil just confused and afraid of the wraith of his peers who would send him to the "Russian front" for non-compliance with their political views.
With the exception of VA Advagodo, which I'll get back to in a moment, consider that the others you mention are the most miniscule in the overall scheme of things involved in the WOD. That said, I suspect they'd become the butt-boy, pass-around "girl friends" with Advagodo perhaps being fortunate enough to be scrambling to keep his butt intact by becoming the resident pimp. You have to keep in mind the failed egos, extreme irrationality and violent criminality of the JBTs and head honchos. They wouldn't give a second thought to making CJ, VA, CA and Dane their sex slaves.
Open the informer files, prosecute everyone in the chain of command who was crooked, pass an amnesty, or what?
Kept at a distance from public in reeducation facilities and held accountable until paying restitution to their victims and the families of those for whom they murdered a loved one. How many will face the mirror; seeing themselves for who they really are and the massive weight of it all with seemingly no-escape, they blow their brains out.
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