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KNIFE THUG KILLS HASID IN BROOKLYN
Local Friends | 03/18/2002 | ME

Posted on 03/18/2002 8:34:03 PM PST by tax hater

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To: seamole
Et tu, Seamole? You're a communist hoaxer too? </kidding> I just wish this were a hoax.
61 posted on 03/18/2002 10:40:03 PM PST by xm177e2
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To: Cindy
It is up to FR, I just know what David Horowitz had to do.

He Pulled his story and apologized.

This story or lack of is a rat turd dropped here at FR.

I could be wrong but I doubt it.

62 posted on 03/18/2002 10:52:10 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: TLBSHOW
Do you think Seamole is a commie disruptor?
63 posted on 03/18/2002 10:57:47 PM PST by xm177e2
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It was right to be skeptical, but lets not put half the posts on this thread attacking the people who posted it...
64 posted on 03/18/2002 10:58:22 PM PST by xm177e2
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To: xm177e2
I only singled out 3. Seamole wasn't one of them.

The other opition was we attack muslims as the thread was headed in that direction. Which is what the thread starter wanted. Which is what David Horowitz just got in trouble for. Incitment was the word used against him.

65 posted on 03/18/2002 11:05:39 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: TLBSHOW
bingo!
67 posted on 03/19/2002 12:09:10 AM PST by BlackJack
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To: tax hater
For "Muslim terrorist" read "thug of color." Some people have too much time on their hands.
69 posted on 03/19/2002 3:26:26 AM PST by Illbay
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To: seamole
Same story from the New York Daily News:

Man, 26, Is Murdered
On Busy B'klyn Street

By MARTIN MBUGUA, TAMER EL-GHOBASHY
and LEO STANDORA

Daily News Staff Writers

young Talmudic scholar heading home with food for his wife and three children was fatally stabbed on a busy Brooklyn street last night, police said.

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Police examine weapon possibly used in fatal attack on young Talmudic scholar in Brooklyn last night.

Detectives said an attacker plunged a knife into 26-year-old Avner Abensour in front of a car rental firm at 1500 Coney Island Ave. in Midwood at 8:40 p.m.

Abensour had just crossed the street after buying a few things at a kosher supermarket on his way home to E. 10th St. just a few blocks away, they said.

Apparently stabbed once in the left side of his back, Abensour collapsed on the sidewalk without even a cry for help.

He was taken unconscious to Maimonides Medical Center, where doctors pronounced him dead on arrival.

Investigators had neither a suspect nor a motive last night for the crime, but said they found a bloody knife in a garbage can around the corner on Avenue K.

Early today, cops still had the area cordoned off while they questioned possible witnesses and looked for clues.

The victim's black hat, jacket, unopened umbrella and a package from the supermarket lay on the pavement encircled in yellow crime-scene tape.

A 21-year-old man from the area, who gave his name only as Akiva, said he saw the victim fall and called 911.

"He seemed to be in quite a lot of pain, but he was very quiet, kind of out of it," he said. "He didn't say anything to me."

Police said Abensour was a student at the Baisroel Talmudic School at Avenue J and Ocean Ave., and became a father for the third time just six months ago.

Early on, police theorized that the stabbing might have been a bias crime, but sources said later that investigators were focusing more on the possibility Abensour was killed in a robbery attempt or in a grudge attack.

But an acquaintance who gave his name only as Eli, 18, said Abensour wasn't the type to have enemies.

"He was a very nice, gentle person, not a harmful person at all," he said. "He was the kind of guy who always avoided disputes."

City Councilman Mike Nelson (D-Brooklyn), who went to the scene, said, "This is seemingly an isolated incident and not a crime of bias," stressing that the area was generally quiet and safe.

"This is unusual," Nelson said. "This stuff doesn't happen here. Our community is in total shock."

State Assemblyman Dov Hikind, who represents the area in Albany, also went to the scene and acknowledged that word of a bias attack was spreading but urged the community to ignore it.

"We should be calm and not believe any rumors. I am confident that those responsible will be apprehended by the NYPD," Hikind said.


Original Publication Date: 03/19/2002


70 posted on 03/19/2002 3:52:19 AM PST by Catspaw
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To: tax hater
Looks like your story was correct........what a crying shame that this had to happen!
You took a bit of flack on this thread, but I say thanks for the fast reporting.......thats what makes FR great......to get breaking news hours before it hits the news media.
71 posted on 03/19/2002 4:24:05 AM PST by mickie
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To: TLBSHOW
Just for the record, what Tax Hater reported was factual. He was not an eye witness to the crime and was just reporting what the buzz was from the street in NY. FWIW I may have been inflammatory, but the rumor was true. The NYPD is busy denying the rumor, but they have no evidence to back their story up either. This is one that will take an investigation to sort out the truth, but in the area where this occurred you would stand out like a sore thumb if you were not Hasidic, so I'll start my own rumor. I think chances are it was a murder within the community. Most likely a crime of passion since statically this is the most common motivation to murder.
72 posted on 03/19/2002 4:26:55 AM PST by Woodman
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To: Woodman
I think chances are it was a murder within the community. Most likely a crime of passion since statically this is the most common motivation to murder.

Do you have a clue about the extremely low statistics of this happening within the community or do you get all your information from reading crime novels?

73 posted on 03/19/2002 4:37:52 AM PST by Alouette
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To: tax hater
I question this report....it would be at least on the local news surely.....
74 posted on 03/19/2002 4:40:15 AM PST by rwfromkansas
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To: Alouette
How about "The Sopranos?"
75 posted on 03/19/2002 4:43:27 AM PST by John H K
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To: rwfromkansas
See posts #68 and #70.
76 posted on 03/19/2002 4:43:48 AM PST by Catspaw
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To: Woodman
So far all we've got is a dead man who was stabbed in the back by someone nobody seems to have seen. So to announce it was the work of a "Muslim Terrorist" is quite a stretch (I notice the title has finally been changed).

The last time Muslim terrorists killed Jews here, they used guns.

77 posted on 03/19/2002 4:46:38 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: TLBSHOW
taxhater smells like a mullet on the beach.
78 posted on 03/19/2002 4:52:29 AM PST by Jasper
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To: John H K
How about "The Sopranos?"

Wrong ethnic.

79 posted on 03/19/2002 4:53:58 AM PST by Alouette
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To: hellinahandcart
The last time Muslim terrorists killed Jews here, they used guns.

You're correct. A gunman opened fired at a van full of Jewish teenagers on the Brooklyn Bridge, killing Ari Halberstam, 16, and seriously wounding another boy, Nachum (and his last name has slipped my mind). However there is good news: Nachum, who was in a coma for many months and was prounounced brain damaged with prognosis in a vegetative condition, has fully recovered. He is now married and the father of a child.

80 posted on 03/19/2002 4:58:26 AM PST by Alouette
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