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Russian mobsters tighten their grip on LA(Red Mafia smuggles Spies)
www.guardian.co.uk ^ | March 25, 2002 | Duncan Campbell in Los Angeles

Posted on 03/27/2002 5:56:31 AM PST by It'salmosttolate

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To: edmund929, brooklynGOP
Eddie, I have met many who came over through Jackson/Vanick who are involved in the legitimate business world. They started as cab drivers, yet have moved up to become technicians, jewelers, etc. There is some trash that needs to be arrested and deported, but the bulk of the Jackson/Vanick people are OK in my book (although BGOP, I am still upset that youse guys took over Sheepshead Bay).
21 posted on 03/27/2002 7:30:59 AM PST by Clemenza
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To: Clemenza
Hah! I live in S Bay. The property values went UPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP... Perhaps you would like to tell our friends what Brighton Beach was like before russian Jews moved in the 1970's.
22 posted on 03/27/2002 7:32:14 AM PST by BrooklynGOP
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To: It'salmosttolate;Clemenza;Major Malfunction;Sabertooth;Tancredo Fan;maica;Freee-dame;harpseal
A nation so lazy and decadent that it can't be bothered to control its borders is not going to last long as a free Republic.
23 posted on 03/27/2002 7:33:33 AM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Clemenza
What we need to do is 1. Enforce the laws we already have on the books regarding immigration, 2. Abolish family reunification and 3. End the drug war!

Total agreement on 1 and 2. Number 3 is more complicated, but I'd like to look at drastically new approaches.

We also need to change the ammendment (the 14th?) that allows Illegals to deliver anchor babies at taxpayer expense. No cicizenship for the children of Illegals.

We also need to abolish any and all government subsidies for Illegals, and end the patchwork jurisdictional prohibitions that prevent local law enforcement from cooperating effectively with the INS to deport apprehended Illegals. I heard an LAPD gang task force leader a few years ago that there were more that 100,000 Illegals Mexican ganghsters at large in our city. A couple of years ago, I was a bystander to an auto-accident and helped run down the Illegals running from the scene. I got a call from a Detective Hernandez with LAPD, and it appeared that these guys were slipping through the cracks. I asked if he had any leverage because of their residence status. Detective Hernandez told me that if he was allowed to use residence status as leverage, he could clean up the gang problem in the San Fernando Valley in 6 months.

I guess some here would call him a racist.

In your #1, are you willing to see significant deportations of Illegals from the American Interior?




24 posted on 03/27/2002 7:34:10 AM PST by Sabertooth
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To: BrooklynGOP
Perhaps you would like to tell our friends what Brighton Beach was like before russian Jews moved in the 1970's.

Abandoned, with a few old stragglers sitting on the boardwalk who couldn't afford the move to Florida. Actually, much of South Miami Beach was the same way until the Gays moved in in the early 90s.

I remember there was a movement to get more Russians to move to Canarsie back in the early 80s, but the Russkies were smart enough to bypass that dump and allow the Caribs to move in.

25 posted on 03/27/2002 7:40:45 AM PST by Clemenza
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To: jmp702, commiesout, grouchotwo
Now here a real spy story....
26 posted on 03/27/2002 7:51:14 AM PST by veronica
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To: Sabertooth
California is bleeding heart central now, as most of the rich white people in the Bay Area or the West Side of LA don't give a rat's arse. Besides, the gangsters provide many of them with their supply.

I have only visited Cali twice in my life. Every native-born white person I know from there is a liberal Democrat and they tell me that the only pockets of conservatism when they were young were Orange County, San Diego and the interior. I guess I have to expand my circle of friends.

27 posted on 03/27/2002 7:55:44 AM PST by Clemenza
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To: Sabertooth
Deportation is difficult, as I know many employers who would raise a hissy fit if they woke up to the fact that their workers were gone. I am for making the fines for hiring illegals sky high.
28 posted on 03/27/2002 7:57:38 AM PST by Clemenza
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To: It'salmosttolate; Squantos; GeronL; Billie; sinkspur; Slyfox; San Jacinto; SpookBrat; COB1...
Russian mobsters tighten their grip on LA (Red Mafia smuggles Spies)

Excerpt:

Four bodies pulled from a reservoir in California are believed to be the latest victims of a huge organised crime network run by mobsters from the former Soviet Union. What is now surfacing, along with the corpses, is a picture of a highly intelligent criminal organisation that far outstrips in numbers and sophistication the traditional Italian mafia and any other such group in the US..................A fifth body was found floating in the reservoir in October.

The discoveries have been followed by the arrest of four men, also from the former Soviet Union, who are alleged to have kidnapped one of the victims, Alexander Umansky, the president of Advanced Mobile Technologies in Hollywood and held him for a $250,000 (£175,000) ransom..................

Anthony Colannino, deputy district attorney for LA, who specialises in Russian organised crime, said that between 1970 and 1985 about 300,000 legal Soviet immigrants entered the US, of whom 5,000-10,000 were "hardened criminals".

There are now, he says, tens of thousands entering the US every year illegally, many crossing the Mexican border and going to LA. "They include ex-KGB officers, former special forces and government officers. They're very good at computer crime, electronic balance fraud, insurance fraud, pimping, narcotics, loan sharking, racketeering."

They preferred to avoid violent crime, if possible, Mr Colannino said, "but they'll kill you if they have to".

"Unlike the old Italian mob, who would send flowers to your wife after they'd killed you, they'll kill you, your wife, your children, your uncle, your cousins, your neighbours. They're bloody ruthless, they really are."


Hmm?? Brings Nickolai Soltys to mind also, in Rancho Cordova.
Whoa! After this ping, I'm e-mailing this to my brother in California...........


Please let me know if you want ON or OFF my ping list!. . .don't be shy.

29 posted on 03/27/2002 8:03:53 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: It'salmosttolate
This is exactly the point of illegal immigration. Notice the people who come to our country from Russia are literally being run out of there. They are coming here enmasse, and we have started to see the results. Why is Russia a Toilet? Because that's what Russians know. They were never a formidable enemy for this country, but now that they're here in our country, infiltrating it, and destroying it from within, they now ARE a formidable enemy.

The INS whines that the paperwork is too hard. Hmmmm Let me see your paperwork. Ten bucks says that the INS agents who are whining are too F-king lazy to work for the tax money it costs us to pay them. Here, Let me put it in plain english for you folks at INS. IF you don't do your job, then our nation is gone. If you can't get it through your heads, that the INS is the first line of defense for keeping the bad guys out of our country, then you need to go flip some burgers someplace else. I wish I could work for the INS, I'm multi-lingual, a military veteran, and of good moral character, yet for some reason I'm ineligible to work for them. Hmmmmm Could it be that the INS wants to be ripe with ineptitude, and corruption? Hey, Maybe, just Maybe the INS is shaking down illegals for money and letting them stay here. It's pretty nice the scam they have isn't it? Let's not do anything about illegals. WE can still get paid NOT to do our jobs.

The INS is a joke. If they honestly cared about their job, and knew the importance of their job, especially in light of September 11th, there wouldn't be an illegal immigration problem. They wouldn't be finding reasons why they CAN'T or WON'T do their jobs. Oh, and a side note to the INS. I still have 3 families of illegals across the hall from me living in a 2 bedroom apartment.

30 posted on 03/27/2002 8:05:22 AM PST by MadRobotArtist
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To: It'salmosttolate; Sabertooth
Anthony Colannino, deputy district attorney for LA, who specialises in Russian organised crime, said that between 1970 and 1985 about 300,000 legal Soviet immigrants entered the US, of whom 5,000-10,000 were "hardened criminals".

It's a scary thing to know our great help at the INS is importing Russias finest criminals.............
31 posted on 03/27/2002 8:12:11 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: MeeknMing
Hmm?? Brings Nickolai Soltys to mind also, in Rancho Cordova.

You guys keep missing it. Nickolai Soltys was not a Jew, he was an Ukranian. He was not part of a mob, either, he was just a mental case.

32 posted on 03/27/2002 8:19:23 AM PST by BrooklynGOP
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To: Sabertooth;tancredo fan;clemenza;vrwc54;okiegolddust;prs;drango;brownie74;wrhine;americanintokyo...

Bush Pushes Senate To Legalize Illegal Aliens

President Bush strongly urged the U.S. Senate to support a measure passed in the U.S. House of Representatives that enables illegal aliens to apply for visas and permanent residency in the United States. The House bill also allows illegal aliens to bring their entire huge families over here in the name of "family reunification."

It is estimated that there are at least 11 million illegal aliens who have invaded the United States. Virtually all come from Third World cultures where America is despised and envied.

Here they come!
(If they're not already here)

The U.S. population is already 30% third world. If the illegal aliens are legalized and permitted to bring their illegitimate children here, the third world percentage of the population will grow dramatically.

Furthermore, the Bush-supported House bill will encourage huge numbers of other Third World aliens, who do not even have family members here, to swarm across our borders. When these aliens in Third World countries see how America is welcoming millions of illegals and their illegitimate offspring, it will certainly send them a signal that they can also eventually benefit by sneaking into the country.

Coyote Numero Uno (March 21, 2002)
(Jorge Bush barks out of both sides of his mouth)

Addressing a gathering of flag-waving "Texicans," Jorge Bush vowed to stop the "coyotes," the criminal smugglers of illegal aliens across the Mexican border, who are bringing equally dangerous criminals into the beleaguered United States on a daily basis. But the coyotes (Jorge pronounced it with a Spanish accent) are small beans compared to Coyote Numero Uno, Bush himself, who wants to inundate his nation with millions of Third World cucarachas.

The House bill passed by a stunning margin of 275 to 137. The bill was co-sponsored by such "conservative" Republicans as House Majority Leader Dick Armey of Texas. It was strongly supported by House Speaker Dennis Hastert and the rest of the Republican leadership.

A similar bill passed the Senate earlier but the House and Senate versions must be identical in order for the legislation to be sent to Jorge Bush for his signature.

Dick Armey and Dennis Hastert
(Hastert is standing on the left)

If this suicidal measure does not prove that America is run by traitors, whether they are Democrats or Republicans, then nothing will.

Yet America's "Silent Majority," which certainly opposes this lunacy, continues to be silent.

Meanwhile, even so-called "conservatives" like Sean Hannity of the Fox News Channel (FNC) support and promote ever greater Third World immigration.

Dick Armey laughs at the INS visa mess (March 13, 2002)
(He chuckled audibly when the issue was raised on FNC's Hannity & Colmes)

Although left-wing Fox commentator Alan Colmes is naturally a supporter of amnesty for America's millions of illegal aliens, even he did not dare laugh aloud while asking the Texas Republican Congressional leader why the INS granted terror pilot Mohammed Atta a student visa exactly six months after the horrors of September 11th.

Other "conservatives" like Rush Limbaugh -- who become positively apoplectic over some minor tax cut or anti-smoking or seat belt regulations -- remain strangely silent on the Third World immigration issue which is bringing about the literal destruction of America.

Once again, the only answer is getting JTF the millions of dollars that it needs to purchase air time for a weekly program on national television or radio.

Unless that happens, the very survival of America, Israel and Western civilization is in grave jeopardy.

"Now hiring [c]losers"
(The Third World hordes of cheap labor need jobs, too)

33 posted on 03/27/2002 8:35:14 AM PST by majordivit
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To: MeeknMing
"Unlike the old Italian mob, who would send flowers to your wife after they'd killed you, they'll kill you, your wife, your children, your uncle, your cousins, your neighbours. They're bloody ruthless, they really are."

Man, they don't mess around. They make my wife's familia look like a bunch of push-overs!

36 posted on 03/27/2002 9:04:19 AM PST by LoneGOPinCT
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To: necho6, edmund929, old hickory
The Rise and The Rise of the Russian Mafia

'It is estimated around £16bn ($25bn) of dirty Russian money has left the country since the fall of communism - most of which has been laundered by banks in Switzerland, Liechtenstein and Cyprus.

Another favourite target is Israel. >>>>>Many Russian gangsters claim to be of Jewish origin, in order to get an Israeli passport.'

37 posted on 03/27/2002 9:22:10 AM PST by veronica
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To: HangFire; AnnaZ; abigail2; NewDestiny; rebuildus; Cortez; brat; MissAmericanPie; miss print...
Immigration and California bump
38 posted on 03/27/2002 9:28:20 AM PST by lowbridge
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To: Old Hickory
The Russian Mafia is largely Jewish but that should not factor into this story.

Russian Mafia where? In US or Russia?

39 posted on 03/27/2002 9:40:19 AM PST by BrooklynGOP
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To: MeeknMing
Nicolai hung himself,-- case closed by inattentive criminal enforcement aboveworld.
40 posted on 03/27/2002 9:46:18 AM PST by let freedom sing
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