Posted on 03/28/2002 8:04:49 AM PST by sheltonmac
This bill restricts rights in the Constitution, and dems or Not, at least either Stevens or Breyer, will join the Right side, and O'Connor, in areas excepting abortion is reliable in this area as well.
The court generally takes a much dimmer view of restricting rights, (out side of Law and Order issues), than expanding ones that don't exist.
Hey, second time in six months...
The boy is on a roll.
Which amendment does he have to repeal in order to get you to jump the boat?
GWB took a solemn oath to protect the constitution and he knowingly, deliberatly and willinging violated that oath when he signed the CFR into law.
Please tell me how I can trust this man in the future, his oath means nothing, so how can I tell when he is lying or not.
Unless the Republicans (big "R") actually own this site - or the Rush Limbaugh show, for that matter - as they apparently think they do.
Free Republic is not a GOP plantation, as much as they would like it to be so.
What do you expect him to do, commandeer all print and broadcast media, until they come around to his way of thinking. Like it or not, the Leftist media is responsible for the viablility of much of the expressed opinion in this country, you need look no further than the fact that nearly one third of ALL AMERICANS own guns, yet gun control is a viable political opinion in this country....The presidents "education' would last 30 seconds after he was finished delivering it, only to be discredited for the next 2 YEARS in the media.
How disappointed? I'll bet not enough to withold your vote. And when do you stop respecting him? When he repeals another amendment?
When does "Enough is Enough" kick in?
But here's the problem: I don't think many of the people being critical here about Bush's actions in this case are the "end of the world" crowd you're talking about. I know I'm not.
The question is when is not appropriate to play politics with your ideology. Some things must be sacred. Tarrifs for steel would fall into the political playbook for me. Messing with the constitution is not in the political zone in my book.
So I think there is a MAJOR distinction that is being lost on many Freepers who want to paint with a broad brush all the critics of CFR.
Supreme Court will either kill it or this turkey will no longer be someone's signature issue!
This was pure politic's..
What will Johnny One Note have to run on now.....his support of the military????LOL!
Thanks, Jim
226 posted on 2/7/02 4:01 PM Pacific by Jim Robinson
Perhaps its more than one issue too.
Remember when Bush gave the ultimatium, "You are either with us or with the terrorists?" Did he mean all terrorists except the Palistinian type? Are these good terrorists? because Bush cannot seem to make up his mind whos side he is on, alternately condemning first the Palistinians, then the Israelis?
Is protecting a few thousand steel jobs worth paying 30% more for steel in the US, and seeing manufacturing jobs which use steel move out of the US to places like Mexico? Does Bush believe in free trade or not? I thought he did when I voted for him?
How does giving the most corrupt sector of government, the Dept. of Education, the largest budget increase ever help it to become more efficient and honest?
Do we want Government regulators looking over the shoulder of religious charities even more than they already do? This would have been the effect of Bush's "Faith Based Initiative".
I had hopes that I was contributing and voting for a conservative who would limit the size and power of the Federal Government. With the size of the Federal Budget Increase it is clear that GW Bush is simply another tax and spend politician. Even the tax cut, while symbolic, is so small and so delayed as to be just that, symbolic.
However, I find myself increasingly dissappointed in W's kowtowing to the democrats on EVERY Domestic issue. I was always leary of the "Compassionate" B.S. and now I am convinced that label stands for "Go along to get along."
Compassionate Conservative= I stand for NOTHING.
God Bless the Commonwealth, W, our country and most importantly- The Military!
If eroding our liberty is a great political move to so called conservatives, then we are in BIG TROUBLE! The fact that the NRA has to sue the Bush Administration over this is pretty pathetic.
The people who scolded me on that thread are the same type who thinks that their kids do no wrong no matter what the kids do. Sad.
I think you are failing to distinguish between a strategy and a tactic. Consider the following thought experiment:
Should Bush sign a bill nationalizing all private property and wait two years for the SCOTUS to strike it down? Would the Constitution be any stronger for it?
If Bush cared at all about the Constitution, he should have vetoed the bill.
I see it now,,,, sign something unconstitutional in order to prevent someone else from theoretically siging it later. Sounds like a sound strategy to me.
Sounds like you care more about strategy than rights. That would put you in lockstep with him.
This is a perfect example of the Bush bashing -- you know, the bashing you all claim to hate so much. You complain about people disagreeing with you, yet you take any chance you see to let posters know that because THEY don't see things YOUR way -- the "correct" way, of course! -- they're dumb.
You just cannot have it both ways. Stop trying to make people who don't agree with you believe they are beneath you or are no "real conservatives," or "true patriots." If you all would stop acting so damn morally superior, perhaps the Bush Bots would lay off.
Thanks, Jim
226 posted on 2/7/02 4:01 PM Pacific by Jim Robinson
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Perhaps Bush should ask Congress to send him bills in opposition to each of the Bill of Rights. If we're strengthening the Constitution, let's not do it piecemeal. < /sarcasm >
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