More Immigrants on Welfare Despite Reform

Fox News ^ | 28 March 2002 | Kelley Beaucar Vlahos

[Sabertooth]

"The immigrants are using more welfare because they are poorer, not because they have more of a propensity to use welfare," Passel said.

I wonder what percentage of Freepers won't see the problem with this statement.

Poorer people have a higher propensity to use welfare.

[nunya bidness]

Is it me or did someone turn the heat up around here?

[FreedomFriend]

Apparently, the do-dos in Washington don't understand. That's the problem with allowing illegal aliens and legal immigrants to apply for social services such as welfare.

You'd think that "our" politicians would have a brain in their head.

[Carry_Okie]

And I thought they came here to do jobs Americans won't do.

[FITZ]

This is an example of what is going on in some places --it was a letter to the editor today in a newspaper in a town seriously affected by immigration, this area was once slightly better than the national avearage in wages $104 to $100 in the 50's, but it's dropped to $57 to $100 in the last census. It's not just Anglos leaving though ---middle class Americans of all backgrounds (including Hispanic) are leaving as the Mexicans are moving in:

Driving wedges
from http://www.borderlandnews.com/stories/opinion/letters/letter.shtml

I believe there is a racial divide in El Paso, and much of it can be traced back to the past few decades of Mexican-American militancy, particularly the movements of the 1960s and '70s.

Many of the student leaders of Chicano movements are now a part of the "establishment." However, they did not outgrow the ideas they developed during those years. Rather, many continue to promote a racialist agenda, driving wedges between groups in El Paso.

They may be unaware it is happening, but one look at the demographics during the past few years paints an unflattering picture of what has happened. Much of the Anglo population has left El Paso. Mexican Americans are in the majority and have leadership roles in the community, and yet these former student leaders continue to cite racism as a reason for the problems in El Paso.

These people's agenda is wearing thin. But this does not deter them, and many will keep their racialist strategies in place, as long as there is a potential benefit for them. However, they do not seem to care if the community is helped or hurt by their actions.

[koba]

No, they came here to get a free luch while the American people were out to lunch.

[FreedomFriend]

Of course poor people have a higher propensity to use welfare. It's pathetic the way the pro-illegal alien mafia twist logic, words, etc. in an effort to benefit their agenda.

[Sabertooth]

And I thought they came here to do jobs Americans won't do.

Many do, and get paid under the table while collecting welfare.

[koba]

They don't care about the community, they care about their personal power, especially if they see white Americans leaving the Southwest. They can then take over in the vacuum.

[RnMomof7]

In the days before welfare immigrants had to come here and "make it" It was sink or swim...the weak returned home ..the strong and productive stayed here..

No more, there is no more natural selection process .If they are sinking we rescue them.

I think we should give them a ticket home...but then I have been told I am a raciest. It doesn't matter that I do not care what the color or race or religion..they all should have the same rules..a sponsor..a job...self sufficency..Period..White,black yellow or brown..

[FreedomFriend]

Yeah, they're saying its the white man's fault, right? Despite the fact that only around 20% of El Paso's population is non-"hispanic" white.

[GaConfed]

If Hispanics are more numerous and the whites are generally only interested in luxuries and not producing offspring don't the Hispanics "deserve" the Southwest? Philosophical question of course...

Very good question. It is a fact that groups of peoples have been migrating hither and yon all over the world since the beginning of time. Heck, there is strong evidence that there were other folks in the western hemisphere before the Indians migrated here from Asia. But, it is also true that strong cultures live on to influence future generations even if it is defeated militarily and politically by a lesser culture at a given time. Example: Roman and Greek culture have a far more profound influence on political and cultural life of Europe and America than that of the Angles, Saxons, Visigoths, Ostrogoths, and other Germanic barberian tribes, even though they overthrew the Roman Empire for all practical purposes. My obsession these days is not to let my culture, which I think is superior, be overthrown by that of a bunch of barberians like the Romans were. Fact is what lead to their downfall was letting the Visigoths settle within the boundries of the empire and govern themselves when they needed refuge from Attila the Hun. Sound familiar???? We have here past history to take heed from. If we don't do it, then maybe we do deserve to be wiped out.

[FreedomFriend]

Well, it is a sad day in America, isn't it?

I'm of the persuasion that people may not wake up until it's too late. I mean, look at the people who usually post to these threads. Very few are from the northeast (minus the NY, NJ, and CT) and very few are from the midwest (minus the Chicago area). The majority of posters to these threads are from the American southwest and south (GA and NC in particular). As I see it, if the problem isn't that much of a problem, people don't pay attention to it. I was the same way, and I didn't know anything was going on until all of a sudden Illegal Aliens were overtaking apartment complexes, pushing shopping carts down the road, playing loud music in neighborhoods, total take-over of all the labor jobs, etc.) Yet, I was pretty young. I'm only 25. I was in college during a lot of the invasion. My focus was on graduating.

[FITZ]

The problem is that it's not just white Americans leaving the SW but all kinds of middle class Americans so cities like El Paso are in financial trouble and looking more like the country they left behind. So they have to pack their bags again and head north or east. There's an out-migration now that resembles that of Mexico's. The more successful and educated are moving out, but the uneducated, illiterate are moving in. Jobs are leaving the area when you'd think the low labor costs would bring them in.

[koba]

Jobs are leaving because the educated workforce is also leaving. All that is left is low-wage manual-labor jobs, and you can't build an advanced economy on that.

[FreedomFriend]

That's sad to hear. Fitz, tell me, where are the good areas in El Paso? I mean, are there any areas that aren't Mexicanified? Are there any American-like communties, cities, and or neighborhoods?

[B4Ranch]

Travis, You need to put fresh batteries in your clock. 2006-2010 and bean burritos will be a daily must have food in the schools by order of the School Boards.

[koba]

Yes, Spanish food and the Mexican version of history will probably be forced upon students in the Southwest by the year 2015. After all, when you're pushing the Reconquista, you want the young Hispanics on your side, right?

[brat]

"In 2000, 26.7 percent of immigrants in California received welfare assistance."...........Why should taxpaying citiZens subsidize the cheap labor of some Republicans? Funny how they scream if a citizen loses their living and needs some help, but then turn around and hire under the table labor and feel entitled to do so.