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"Harmful to Minors: The Perils of Protecting Children From Sex"
Newhouse News Service ^ | March 26, 2002 | Mark O'Keefe

Posted on 04/03/2002 9:01:29 AM PST by ImbecileBoy

Edited on 04/13/2004 3:36:23 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: Recovering_Democrat
A concerted Minnesota axis of perversion link Just below the photo of the disrobing minor(the book's cover shot by which we can judge it)is a poll to freep.

This book was rejected by all for-profit publishers and is brought to you through the riches of "public" education.

21 posted on 04/03/2002 9:43:49 AM PST by irgbar-man
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To: who knows what evil?
I could detail some of the practices by some of the Roman Emporors but that would be a little too disgusting for many. Suffice to say infants were used for some sexual practices. IMHO the parents of a child should be the primary means of insuring that children are not sexually exploited. The handgun is an exellent tool for providing an innoculation that will deter sexual predators who prey on children. I personally think 180 grains of lead will do the job nicely but there are a number of dosages that will get a similar result.

In brief my response is that we as a society need to protect our children from sexual exploitation. We should exterminate pederasts. Those who advocate the exploitation of children should be investigated in detail. Their lives should be under a microscope and anyone who associates with them after such advocacy should be subjected to complete social isolation. This later punishment is of course a non-judical action that would only come into play until the evidence of their child exploitation comes to light and then they should be subjected to the criminal penalties.

In an earlier time in America such advocacy would have gotten one a ride out of town on a rail while wearing a new coat of tar and feathers. It is sad we no longer share that ethos.

Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown

22 posted on 04/03/2002 9:47:28 AM PST by harpseal
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Well, here's how Amazon is hyping the book, and it's already #44 in sales rank!

Is that sulfur I smell?

Editorial Reviews

Dr. Joycelyn M. Elders A vitally important book.

Robie Harris THE book parents, teachers, and health professionals need to educate our children that most things about sex are normal.

James Kincaid A major book. Sharp, extraordinarily informed, and wittily incisive. The most wide-ranging we have on the subject. Crusading and kind.

Book Description

Sex is a wonderful, crucial part of growing up, and children and teens can enjoy the pleasures of the body and be safe, too.

In this important and controversial book, Judith Levine makes this argument and goes further, asserting that America's attempts to protect children from sex are worse than ineffectual. It is the assumption of danger and the exclusive focus on protection-what Levine terms "the sexual politics of fear"-that are themselves harmful to minors.

Through interviews with young people and their parents, stories drawn from today's headlines, visits to classrooms and clinics, and a look back at the ways sex among children and teenagers has been viewed throughout history, Judith Levine debunks some of the dominant myths of our society. She examines and challenges widespread anxieties (pedophilia, stranger kidnapping, Internet pornography) and sacred cows (abstinence-based sex education, statutory rape laws). Levine investigates the policies and practices that affect kids' sex lives-censorship, psychology, sex and AIDS education, family, criminal, and reproductive law, and the journalism that begs for "solutions" while inciting more fear.

Harmful to Minors offers fresh alternatives to fear and silence, describing sex-positive approaches that are ethically based and focus on common sense. Levine provides optimistic, though realistic, prescriptions for how we might do better in guiding children toward loving well-that is, safely, pleasurably, and with respect for others and themselves.

Judith Levine is a journalist, essayist, and author who has written about sex, gender, and families for two decades. Her articles appear regularly in national publications, most recently Ms., nerve.com, and My Generation. An activist for free speech and sex education, Levine is a founder of the feminist group No More Nice Girls and the National Writers Union. She is the author of My Enemy, My Love: Women, Men, and the Dilemmas of Gender (1992), and lives in Brooklyn, New York, and Hardwick, Vermont.

23 posted on 04/03/2002 10:08:26 AM PST by yatros from flatwater
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To: FreedomFighter86
Wow. Some people will dissent to anything.
24 posted on 04/03/2002 10:12:06 AM PST by AmishDude
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To: ImbecileBoy
Well, the thesis is probably sound. Some kids aren't harmed by sex with adults. You could make the analogy that if someone fires a gun into a crowd, often, no one is hurt.

I guess the point is that you can't tell who is going to be hurt in advance and the presumption is the kids are too young to make the judgement for themselves. Hence in the default it makes sense to prohibit it until the child is of sufficient age and wisdom to knowingly consent to the risks. In my case that would be about 67 years old. :-)

25 posted on 04/03/2002 11:12:18 AM PST by jlogajan
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To: ImbecileBoy
All the buzz, here and elsewhere, has pushed this book to #32 Amazon rank - - - so Judith is no doubt applauding all these discussions.
26 posted on 04/03/2002 12:33:12 PM PST by Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
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To: FreedomFighter86
Re your # 15...Have you all ever considered...reading the book and looking at the concepts behind it before attacking it?

Rediculous comment!

There are many human concepts whose acceptability are self evident to most sane and educated people without careful study. It is innate that we know it is wrong to kill the weak even though a book on the subject need not be read.

Teaching a willing child sodomy, for example as Ms. levine may propose, and then enjoying the experience with the child, is clearly a heinous crime.

The University of Minnesota has for years been a hotbed of anti-family views. The pathetic "gophers" involved with this trash should go back to their dark little holes.

27 posted on 04/03/2002 1:10:14 PM PST by rmvh
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To: rmvh
I am afraid that the book isn't entirely about sex between adults and minors- the main premise is that children lack realistic advice about sex, and that is true as far as I am concerned.
28 posted on 04/03/2002 3:05:24 PM PST by FreedomFighter86
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To: FreedomFighter86
re your # 28

Yes, the book is likely not entirely about the "benefits" of sexually abusing children.....perhaps only 60 % so

Nonetheless, I agree that advice about sex for children may be inadequate in present society....the problem there being....Will such "advice" come from the likes of Joycelyn Elder types or from loving parents who want to protect children from nutcases and morally deficient people such as Judith Levine has demonstrated herself to be.

29 posted on 04/04/2002 3:11:32 AM PST by rmvh
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To: FreedomFighter86
Have you all ever considered...reading the book and looking at the concepts behind it before attacking it?

Have you ever considered...eating sewage and savoring its odor before denouncing it as unhealthy and unpalatable?

When a book is published advocating sex with corpses, will you withhold judgment and read it before denouncing it as a gross perversion?

Bon appetit and good-night.

30 posted on 04/04/2002 3:22:08 AM PST by Kevin Curry
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To: 07055
>I wonder if the Catholic Church puts this woman on retainer.<

The Catholic Church condemns this sort of activity and always has that is one reason for vicious attacks from gay and liberal preists and bishops "inside" the Church and the multitude outside the Church.

Judas betrayed Christ and Peter denied Christ, the Church is currently experiencing the betrayal of the Passion in a similar fashion.

31 posted on 04/04/2002 3:31:59 AM PST by Diva
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To: who knows what evil?
"(Apologies, America.)" don't you mean Cpt. and Tenile
32 posted on 04/04/2002 3:36:36 AM PST by BIOMAN
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To: BIOMAN
"(Apologies, America.)" don't you mean Cpt. and Tenile?

No, although we are "both right". America released it as a single first, but it was a MUCH BIGGER hit for the folks you mentioned. C & T give me the heebie-jeebies, which is probably why I forgot about their version.



33 posted on 04/04/2002 5:04:07 AM PST by who knows what evil?
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To: Kevin Curry
This book's main thesis is that sexual education is lacking in America...that does not relate to having sex with corpses which is a clinically diagnosed disease.
34 posted on 04/04/2002 1:32:13 PM PST by FreedomFighter86
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To: Kevin Curry
Have you all ever considered...reading the book and looking at the concepts behind it before attacking it?

Have you ever considered...eating sewage and savoring its odor before denouncing it as unhealthy and unpalatable?

When a book is published advocating sex with corpses, will you withhold judgment and read it before denouncing it as a gross perversion?

Bon appetit and good-night.

I like your analogy. Well said. But pedophilia is more evil. Children are not capable of making rational decisions about sex. Adults who prey on them are committing crimes that have lifelong and irreparable results on their victims.

35 posted on 04/04/2002 1:44:42 PM PST by jimt
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To: FreedomFighter86
When is sex between adults and children a good thing?
36 posted on 04/04/2002 1:50:51 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: FreedomFighter86
��5{��������ust of the book is that parents protect their children from sex too much, sex is normal and healthy as long as it's consensual, pedophiles are not as harmful as people think, and children having sex with adults is not necessarily a bad thing.
37 posted on 04/04/2002 2:06:37 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: FreedomFighter86
You've read the book, I take it?
38 posted on 04/04/2002 2:08:11 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: ImbecileBoy
The Perils of Protecting Children From Sex,"

The perils of trying to peddle a child to provide free sex for adults as if it was lower than paid whores while threatening parents who protect their children. These types of people should have never been able to promote such terrorism and theft of American children in the first place. Where are our cops, where is our justice, where is homeland security, where are conservatives???

39 posted on 04/04/2002 2:12:27 PM PST by lavaroise
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To: FreedomFighter86 , who knows what evil?
Have you all ever considered...reading the book and looking at the concepts behind it before attacking it?

Have you ever considered people? I mean not considering a book is one thing, but attacking people who feel offended by an insulting book title is quite another.

Why would anyone buy and read a book that insults people with a defining and marking article?

Peril: exposure to the risk of being injured, destroyed, or lost

This book is basicaly saying parents who are trying to heal the growing pain of children as best as they can are felons. Now why, I mean why the heck would you go on the bandwaggon attacking parents and attacking those who are rightly offended by the book? Why would we be forced to read this trash? We don't have to.

HELLO!!!! we are not the ones labeling the book, the title self defined IT!!! and it defined us!!!! YOu get the labeling fault completely the other way. Goesss a long way to show how screwed the nation has become.

Freedom fighter my arse,. You sound like a fascist.

40 posted on 04/04/2002 2:21:49 PM PST by lavaroise
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