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Levi Strauss announces intention to close six plants (U.S. plants)
Associated Press / SFGate

Posted on 04/08/2002 7:30:18 AM PDT by RCW2001

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To: RCW2001
Real men wear Wranglers.
42 posted on 04/08/2002 9:07:06 AM PDT by connectthedots
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To: RCW2001
"outsource the manufacture of its clothing "

Hidee hidee ho......its off to Mexico we go !!
43 posted on 04/08/2002 9:09:22 AM PDT by conserve-it
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To: Radicalgranny
Right on. My Ph.D. in chemistry was a complete waste. I'm sorry I flushed 8 years down the toilet, when I could have been gaining work experience, which is all important. Also, I would've had 8 more years of saving and investing. Plus I would have been more appealing to women if I'd had a job instead of a grad-student stipend in my mid 20's (the prime marriage window), and wouldn't have had to wait til well into my 30's to get married. Plus, the pay isn't what you might expect, and you're "overqualified" for some jobs that you might like or might really need.

Don't get a Ph.D., take it from one who learned the hard way.

On the plus side, few domestic minorities and almost no homosexuals get Ph.D. degrees in technical fields -- therefore, it's one of the few areas where the powers-that-be just can't afford to discriminate against straight white males. When they need a Ph.D., they gotta take what they can get, even if he drives a pickup and wears cowboy boots to the interview!

44 posted on 04/08/2002 9:15:01 AM PDT by Rytwyng
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To: billbears
Yep - Tariffs will help protect our fat-cat american lifestyle of cheeseburgers, hip-hop music, fast cars, $200 sneakers, and $50 Levi's stonewashed denim (a far cry from the first pair of Levis ever made from canvas). Our manufacturing businesses are closing all over the US and folks can't figure out why!
45 posted on 04/08/2002 9:15:47 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: RCW2001
LOL! Another activist corporation reaps what they have sown!
46 posted on 04/08/2002 9:17:00 AM PDT by Destructor
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To: Rytwyng
they gotta take what they can get, even if he drives a pickup and wears cowboy boots to the interview!

LOL! We've got to be true to ourselves : )

47 posted on 04/08/2002 9:18:18 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: RCW2001
Do you think they are second guessing their stances on many things now? I imagine some valiant person standing up in the boardroom saying, "I told you so."
Business and "agendas" don't work. I wonder which company will be next. I personally haven't purchased any Levis products in some years, though many jeans which are made aren't made in America anyway. Even good old reliable Dickies bib overalls are now "Made in Mexico".
48 posted on 04/08/2002 9:21:45 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: Radicalgranny; Rytwyng
Shifting this thread to PhDs - I was considering getting one in MIS. Starting salaries are around $100k - not bad for a rookie PhD with no experience. I couldn't top the lifestyle/salary combination in industry right now - even with 7 yrs exp. To make that money I would have to be a consultant & live on an airplane.

However, I do know several PhDs (family members) in education and english making $35k/yr. I also know many doctors that don't know jack b/c they have never implemented anything in the "real world." Unfortunately, they can be labeled with that stigma of all theory, no work...... Just rambling : )

49 posted on 04/08/2002 9:24:13 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: billbears
>I applaud Levi Strauss for moving. Within 20-30 years the US will no longer be a manufacturing economy, we are moving more and more towards a service economy

Hmmm. I must have missed the public referendum on this issue.

You people who see and "applaud" the business sense in this kind of crap are the biggest bunch loser/slaves/idiots on the planet.

The American people didn't choose to do away with jobs. The American people didn't choose to move to a "service" economy. This is neither the will of the people nor any invisible hand of free market economics.

This is a Fortune 500 bit of social engineering that began two or three generations ago to create the one world WTO vision. This is the result of the very visible hand of coordinated organized labor policies and labor politics and corporate giving that has shaped an economic climate that allows the current crop of CEOs to wave their hands and say, "Hey, we're just doing what's right for business..."

And you applaud.

How very happy you must be.

(Be aware, however, that there are a heck of a lot of Americans who'd applaud a lot louder for the first person to ram a work boot up your disconnected butt...)

Mark W.

50 posted on 04/08/2002 9:36:00 AM PDT by MarkWar
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To: stainlessbanner
Unfortunately, chemistry doesn't have quite that sort of pay scale, even with a Ph.D. And since my sole goal in getting a degree and a (hopefully) high paying career was to finance a stay-at-home wife and mother, I was absolutely horrified when, in my mid-30's I finally realized that getting stupid Ph.D. was precise the reason why I almost MISSED the marriage boat.

But at least I can wear jeans and flannels to work every day. Chemistry is a messy business.

51 posted on 04/08/2002 9:36:44 AM PDT by Rytwyng
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To: Rytwyng
typing too fast... "precisely"... oops
52 posted on 04/08/2002 9:37:53 AM PDT by Rytwyng
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To: billbears
I applaud Levi Strauss for moving. Within 20-30 years the US will no longer be a manufacturing economy, we are moving more and more towards a service economy

WEALTH: The net ownership of material possessions and productive resources. In other words, the difference between physical and financial assets that you own and the liabilities that you owe. Wealth includes all of the tangible consumer stuff that you possess, like cars, houses, clothes, jewelry, etc.; any financial assets, like stocks, bonds, bank accounts, that you lay claim to; and your ownership of resources, including labor, capital, and natural resources. Of course, you must deduct any debts you owe.

VALUE ADDED: The increase in the value of a good at each stage of the production process. The value that's being increased is specifically the ability of a good to satisfy wants and needs either directly as a consumption good or indirectly as a capital good. A good that provides greater satisfaction has greater value. In essence, the whole purpose of production is to transform raw materials and natural resources that have relatively little value into goods and services that have greater value.

SERVICE: An activity that provides direct satisfaction of wants and needs without the production of a tangible product or good. Examples include information, entertainment, and education. This term good should be contrasted with the term good, which involves the satisfaction of wants and needs with tangible items. You're likely to see the plural combination of these two into a single phrase, "goods and services," to indicate the wide assortment of economic production from the economy's scarce resources.

Wealth is created only by engaging in value-added activities. By the same token, Service sector activities do not create wealth, they merely transfer, redistribute and eventually dissipate wealth as consumption. Thus, as value-added activities move offshore and the U.S. labor force shifts to the Service Sector, wealth is dissipated, not created. And the U.S. standard of living declines as a result.
53 posted on 04/08/2002 9:43:24 AM PDT by Willie Green
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To: MarkWar
You are correct. The Fortune 500 are a bunch of unpatriotic whores who would wholesale their parents for a good quarterly report.The money is made by the MANUFACTURERS people!! Not the drones who service them!! Service economy my butt.
54 posted on 04/08/2002 9:49:21 AM PDT by conserve-it
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To: MarkWar
The American people DID choose .... by voting with their dollars. We make decisions with each product we buy. There was never a "vote" to move to a service industry, but a culmination of prices, level of service, and wages.

Ease up on Billbears - I think we all support American industry.

55 posted on 04/08/2002 9:53:21 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: RCW2001
Jeans maker Levi Strauss & Co. said Monday it will shutter six U.S. manufacturing plants this year and cut 3,300 jobs, or about 20 percent of its workforce.

I guess the many trips these people will make to the unemployment office will give new meaning to the term "501 Blues".

56 posted on 04/08/2002 10:11:48 AM PDT by TrappedInLiberalHell
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To: going hot
Ditto!!! Now they can go cry in their beer along with smith & wesson.

I have a feeling that even by taking their manufacturing OUT of this country, they will STILL have very little business. They could GIVE AWAY their gun-grabbin' pro-gay jeans and NO ONE in THIS family will wear 'em!!! (it's a matter of principle)

57 posted on 04/08/2002 10:18:07 AM PDT by mommadooo3
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To: RCW2001
The company, whose sales have been sagging...

Glad my boycott worked.

58 posted on 04/08/2002 10:20:07 AM PDT by Bigg Red
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To: MarkWar
The American people didn't choose to do away with jobs. The American people didn't choose to move to a "service" economy. This is neither the will of the people nor any invisible hand of free market economics.

That's right. They didn't choose, because it wasn't their place to!! It was the place of the business and their stockholders. What is it with you people? Do you think these companies owe the American public(whatever that is!!) or any other nation some sort of payment for placing their businesses there? They stayed quite a long time and I imagine if you look at the bottom line, longer than they should have to make money

I'm not for lost jobs in the respective states and counties and coming from one of the textile capitals for many years here in the South I do feel for these people. But the costs required to pay someone 30 or 40 bucks an hour(or more!!) to do the same job that can be done better at half the cost do add up over time. These companies are not in it for their health. They're in it to make money. You cry and moan everytime a company moves, expecting the government to do something about it. News flash for you. Perhaps if the government did less the jobs wouldn't go away. Labor laws to 'protect the worker'(sounds kind of like 'it's for the children' to me) need to laxed. Perhaps if the companies didn't have to match FICA or pay Social Security on each and every worker, they would have more capital to reinvestment and build better factories and spend more money on training to make the workers more efficient

You want a capitalistic system on one hand and I imagine I'd see you at the front of the line cheering for free enterprise, but on the other hand you're up on the stomp for what has to be the most socialistic ideals this country has ever seen. You can NOT have it both ways!!

59 posted on 04/08/2002 10:22:14 AM PDT by billbears
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To: mommadooo3
I have a feeling that even by taking their manufacturing OUT of this country, they will STILL have very little business. They could GIVE AWAY their gun-grabbin' pro-gay jeans and NO ONE in THIS family will wear 'em!!! (it's a matter of principle)

BUMP for needing to be repeated (repeatedly)

60 posted on 04/08/2002 12:51:28 PM PDT by going hot
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