Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

District digs its heels in over home educators
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | April 10, 2002 | Diana Lynne

Posted on 04/10/2002 5:47:24 AM PDT by Free Fire Zone

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-90 next last
To: Free Fire Zone
They're cutting into the union mafia's turf.
21 posted on 04/10/2002 7:40:27 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Free Fire Zone
For every competent home-schooler out there, there are 300 who are not,

Their idea of "competence" is political correctness. If the State of California wants to see rage among its citizens, this will do it.

22 posted on 04/10/2002 7:49:03 AM PDT by Carry_Okie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Carry_Okie
Their idea of "competence" is political correctness.

That's exactly right. Most homeschoolers teach the opposite. That's why they homeschool, to keep their kids safe from it.
The NEA hates it. It ruins their social experiment. If homeschoolers do better, they look like the failures they are.

"Legal in all 50 states since the 1980s, homeschooling has often been criticized as a paranoid practice of right-wing religious fanatics that stunts children's emotional growth."

23 posted on 04/10/2002 8:00:09 AM PDT by concerned about politics
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: madfly
Thanks for the ping, madfly.

Here's an excerpt from that Time article last fall:

To be sure, many public schools — and their baleful unions and wretched bureaucrats, their rigid rules and we-know-best manner — have done a lot to hurt themselves. But as the most committed parents leave, the schools may falter more, giving the larger community yet another reason to fret over their condition. "A third of our support for schools comes from property taxes," says Ray Simon, director of the Arkansas department of education. "If a large number of a community's parents do not fully believe in the school system, it gets more difficult to pass those property taxes. And that directly impacts the schools' ability to operate." Says Kellar Noggle, executive director of the Arkansas Association of Educational Administrators: "We still have 440,000 kids in public schools, and some 12,000 [in home schooling] is a small number. But those 12,000 have parents and grandparents. Sure, it erodes public support."

Click here for the full article

See, we homeschoolers contribute to the decline of public education.
24 posted on 04/10/2002 8:03:14 AM PDT by Carolina
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: Free Fire Zone
*Education News bump

TIME Cover Story: Home Sweet School

25 posted on 04/10/2002 8:06:14 AM PDT by EdReform
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: *Education News;GrandMoM;Grampa Dave
Ping
26 posted on 04/10/2002 8:07:14 AM PDT by EdReform
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: Free Fire Zone
One way to beat them quickly is for the parents to simply move OUT OF THE LAND OF FRUITS AND NUTS - to another state. That will stop the nazi harrassment instantly! California cannot stop them from moving.
27 posted on 04/10/2002 8:08:25 AM PDT by exmarine
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Free Fire Zone
bump
28 posted on 04/10/2002 8:11:00 AM PDT by VOA
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: VOA
Oh yes. I forgot to add the BUMP
29 posted on 04/10/2002 8:22:17 AM PDT by concerned about politics
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: concerned about politics;Carry_Okie
"The NEA hates it."

What does the NEA and the CTA say about home schooling? See:

Reply # 37 in the thread Home-Schooling Under Siege

Reply # 63 in the thread TIME Cover Story: Home Sweet School

Let's Help Nail the Teachers Unions -- It is National FReep Time (replies 14, 18 and 23)

30 posted on 04/10/2002 8:24:14 AM PDT by EdReform
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: Free Fire Zone
Carol Guardia, a former child welfare and attendance coordinator for Sacramento County insists district officials are merely looking out for the educational welfare of the students. "For every competent home-schooler out there, there are 300 who are not, using it for an excuse to keep their kids home," Guardia told WorldNetDaily.

Complete bovine excrement.

People don't want their kids home and homeschooling is a huge sacrifice: If nothing else, it is giving up eight or so hours of free day care five days a week.

People may be abusing homeschool (and the homeschool nazis jumped all over me for saying "a lot" were) but homeschoolers do a much better job on average than public schools.

In fact, comparing the average homeschooled student to the average public school student makes an excellent case for closing all the public schools.

31 posted on 04/10/2002 8:34:47 AM PDT by hopespringseternal
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Wonder Warthog;all
Personally, and I speak only for myself, Kiss My California A$$.

You are entitled to your opinion of course, but to think that problems such as this exist only in California is beyond stupidity.

I for one am increasingly disgusted with the constant put downs of our fine state.

If you dont like California, fine, dont live here, dont visit here, dont buy products from here and ignore us if you like.

BUT SHUT UP !

Do I care about the stupidity in YOUR state? NO !

If you dont like it, tough.

I happen to live in one of the nicest places I can Imagine. I have lived in 13 States, traveled to 20 others, been to 29 foreign countries and after all is said and done, I choose to live here.

To you and all the rest of you California bashers out there, KISS MY A$$.

We really dont CARE if you like it here or not.

knews hound

32 posted on 04/10/2002 8:37:20 AM PDT by knews_hound
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: EdReform
They're right there with their hand out to take our tax money, aren't they? We're paynig for a dead horse!
33 posted on 04/10/2002 8:39:48 AM PDT by concerned about politics
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: Free Fire Zone
They will do anything to keep kids within or return them to government control. Excerpt from June, 2001 print copy of the Alliance for the Separation of School and State:

Dear Friend of Education,

I'm outraged at the audacity of public school authorities and the intrusiveness of their agenda!

Let me explain.

I had the opportunity to meet Columbine survivor Mark Taylor, his mother and a former member of the Colorado State School Board at the Denver airport last month, just after the second anniversary of the Columbine massacre.

Mark has left public school and has been on home study since he was shot seven times and left for dead. I talked with him long into the night about his recovery and his schooling. He told me of the intense pressure put on him to return to Columbine High School. I was apalled as I heard him recount how one school authority told him...

"If your mom is the problem, money can be found to hire a lawyer to sue her so you can return to Columbine. . .

Marshall Fritz
President
Alliance for the Separation of School and State


34 posted on 04/10/2002 8:42:04 AM PDT by LarryLied
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: EdReform
Thanks for the ping.

What is sad is in the early 1970's the San Juan school system was one of the best. Our older son was a "gifted" child, and he was stimulated and challenged until our last year in Sacramento.

Our son is a genius in math and can do most math, algebra, geometry, trig and calculus in his head correctly.

I came home from work one day, and he was in tears that his math teacher was going to give him a D or an F. We made an appointment to see the teacher the next afternoon.

The teacher was an arrogant new hire. I was standing in front of his desk looking down at his grade book. One of my gifts is the ability to reverse read what is on some one's desk if I'm standing in front of the desk and something like this grade book was in front of the teacher.

I quickly scanned the grade book and read the line of scores for my son. There were 24 grades from tests, homework and classes. My son's lowest grade was 93 with most of the grades being 99 or 100. Since at that school a 93 was an A, I knew that I was faced with an idiot who couldn't do math as he had my son's average for the 24 grades in his tortured math as a 69.

I tried to discuss the situation, and he refused to turn the grade book around. I told my wife to leave the classroom and take our son to the office and have the principle be there.

After they left, I told the idiot that he was a math deficient idiot. I explained to him that if my son had 24 grades it was impossible for him to have an average of 69 when the lowest grade he had was a 93. He went ballistic and started arguing and cussing me.

I reached over the desk and removed his grade book. I then looked at him and said meet me in the office in 5 minutes. He was threatening and saying he would call the police. I suggested that if he wanted to keep his job, he had better wait 5 minutes.

I went to the office and made several copies of this idiot's grade book. The secretary wanted to know why I gave her a copy and told her to look at my son's line and what the idiot had given him. She looked and just rolled her eyes and shook her head and mouthed "You are correct, he's wrong!"

By this time the principle was in the office with my wife and son and threatening to call the police. In about 5 seconds after he saw the gradebook, he just shook his head and said that the teacher was the best he could hire.

The teacher arrived and the principle told him to go back to his office. The teacher wanted his grade book. The principle informed him of the incredible error with my son and said that he was taking the gradebook home to review. I knew that there were several similiar errors, and I told the principle.

Before the teacher left, I told him not to F with my son. Besides getting him fired, there would be brief encounter with me. After he left, I got assurances from the principle that my son would not be bothered by this. I waived extra copies of the gradebook and said "No there won't be.

In spite of this bad egg then, the other teachers were great for both sons.

35 posted on 04/10/2002 8:42:27 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: Carolina
See, we homeschoolers contribute to the decline of public education.

The "John Galt" approach to education reform!

36 posted on 04/10/2002 8:48:00 AM PDT by TomSmedley
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: Grampa Dave
Maybe he didn't "feel" the right way about the numbers. Did he "feel" sorry for the number 1 because it was smaller than number 3?
Did he think 3 should "share" one of it's numbers with the 1 to make it fair?
How did he "feel" about the number 5? Was it too oppressive to the poorer number 2?
If his "feelings" were politically incorrect, he may have failed had you not snapped the teacher back to reality.
37 posted on 04/10/2002 8:51:29 AM PDT by concerned about politics
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

Comment #38 Removed by Moderator

To: erizona
I wonder??? Is there a "legal defense fund" set up for the Sorensens?

I sent a copy of this article to Home School Legal Defence. If she's not a member, they may help anyway.

39 posted on 04/10/2002 8:59:45 AM PDT by concerned about politics
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]

Comment #40 Removed by Moderator


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-90 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson