Cardinal Law's Aide Told Victim: "Sex Acts by Priest Are Expressions of Affection"

Boston Globe ^ | 4/12/02 | Sacha Pfeiffer

[Steve0113]

"These priests tell parishioners to confess sins for the good of their soul."

Which isn't even Biblical if you've ever read the Book of Hebrews.

Ever seen John 19:23?

Or 2 Corinthians 5:17-20?

[marajade]

That maybe true but it doesn't follow the book of acts and Timothy and Peter as a model though...

[marajade]

I kinda get 2 Cor but am totally confused how your scripture in John applies.

[another cricket]

How so? There is nothing in there about sending a minister to a church and that they had to take him. It was done by consent.
There were no priests at that time in any case.

a.cricket

[marajade]

You're right it was done by consent of those who worshipped at the church in whatever city it was. In the Book of Acts Paul makes several trips to churches in different cities just to appoint elders when then appoint/hire evangelists.

[another cricket]

Ok, are we arguing then? It seems that we agree. Unless I am missing something here.

a. cricket

[marajade]

I guess we agree...

[SkyPilot]

I Corinthians 3:13-15 "Every man's work shall be made manifest; for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss; but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire."

Paul is not referring to sin, but of service. Further, if this refers to "purgatory" - then every person must go there - - which is not even the teaching of the Catholic church.

Christ said in of His last breath "It is completion." Think about that. This is precisly why the catholic church is in trouble. Look at the title of this thread again. Many people within the catholic church believe what its authorities say, without having a faith grounded in salvation by Christ alone.

[EdReform]

"When I mentioned to my "Liberal Long-Island Teacher's Union" relatives that it was more a Homosexual problem than a Religious problem, they almost went berserk!"

Send them the link to the following thread and watch them go over the edge:

Sex before 8 - or it's too late! Craige McMillan on how media covers for homosexual child abusers

( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/646239/posts )

[X-USAF]

I think I am going to be ill.

I think I am going to need a shot of Demerol in my butt.

This whole mess continues to spiral out of control, with no end in sight. To say the least, the reports the other day out of the Vatican that the Pope has been "deeply touched" by the suffering surrounding allegations of sexual abuse by American priests, and that he "extended his hand in support to the bishops of the United States" is nothing but lousy spin control and a message that was too little, to late.

The Catholic church in America is in dire need of a clean sweep, from the top down. Additionally, the Church as a whole needs to author, publish and enforce strict guidelines to deal with these problems, including immediate notification to law enforcement from the get go. Anything short of this would be unacceptable.

On a related note, neighbors of mine have observed public censure of fellow citizens who are Catholic by those who are not. A well known Priest was jeered and taunted while in line at the grocery.

These are the signs of a church deep in the thick of trouble.

Maybe the church needs its own version of malpractice insurance.