Posted on 04/12/2002 7:00:37 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
Edited on 04/13/2004 2:07:41 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
The good Lord above is allowing this thinning of His ranks to have a more purified priesthood.
It is extremely painful especially for the victims and the truly dedicated priests.
Thank you, Cardinal Bernadin, wherever you are.
(/sarcasm)
When is America going to wake up?
I have no problem with the RC Church and agree it is an attempt to subvert the true church. I think your members have been on the right side of this all along, you have to admit that your leadership has been lacking tho.
Okay. As long as that blackjacking I give good father in return is considered a friendly pat on the head.
The RC church has a problem with homosexuals, not pedophiles.
And let the congregation say "Amen!"
I have nothing against Catholics or their church. I don't believe in holding grudges for 500 years but like most bureaucracies they have an "old boy network" and a disinclination to police their own. It is not just in this area either.
a. cricket
you have to admit that your leadership has been lacking tho
Woefully so. I welcome any constructive suggestions.
The Church is like the canary in the coal mine. The deadly odor has been detected and all society should be warned. The homosexual plague has been visited upon the world and spread by religious groups, the media and the entertainment industry.
The real axis of evil that will destroy America is drugs, abortion and homosexuality. The wage of sin is death.
I think it goes a bit beyond this. If it was just a relucance to police their own, why are they so punitive to heterosexual priests who leave the priesthood to marry?
These guys lose all of the money they put into their pension plan and are defrocked post haste.
And, as the article from two days ago proved, a nun who violated the dress code was fired because that was deemed a "breach of trust."
There was no problem with "policing their own" in those cases.
It is only in the case of oral and anal rape of boys that the Church fathers have a disinclination to police their own.
Makes you wonder why?
Some of our bishops and priests have been and continue to be evildoers. Many have been negligent (at best), ignoring them. A few have been sterling examples of of what their vocation should be (Bruskewicz, for example).
AB
Remember that you asked for it. ;~)
I think, (I could be wrong) that the Church appoints Priests to a parish. What about letting the Parish elect the priest? They would have a chance to question the Parish where he was coming from and make at least a semi-informed decision on whether they want this man to lead them. I have noticed the churches, in general, who have the biggest problem with liberalism are those who appoint the church leaders.
There seems to be less of this in the churches that elect their pastors. The congregation serves as a check on the pastor to keep him from going too far off the rails and out of touch with the church body.
There is also swift justice available for wrong doing.
a. cricket
I am surprised those records still exist. I would be reluctant to put down on paper some of the stuff that has been turning up in press reports, and it would never have seen the inside of a file, paper or computer. These guys must simply have felt really safe for a long time.
It's not just the homosexual immorality but also the heterosexual immorality that is accepted (Clinton, Condit, Gingrich, et al.). Perot was right on one thing... when he said, "If your wife can't trust you, why should we?"
Adultery and fornication surely aren't winked at in the Bible, how can a Protestant of Catholic lament only the vile sins of pedophilia and homosexuality?
The problem is larger than we are often willing to admit. America needs a heaven sent revival which begins (as true revivals do) with the household of faith first.
I don't think he's either powerless or ignorant. I think he's letting the evildoers hoist themselves on their own petards. Wounds heal better when all the pus is allowed to drain, and all of the dead tissue identified and excised. Let's just get rid of the infection once and for all, and then healing can begin.
I think the Pope is very sick and tired of trying to talk sense into some members of the American hierarchy. He's been quoted, off the record, telling an aide, "They don't listen to me." He's at the point a parent reaches when, after telling a child again and again not to do something, he finally just gives up and lets nature teach the disobedient child a lesson.
I have no problem with legitimaite criticism of the pedohilia, but you are gunning for the destruction of my faith. Too bad for you...that isn't going to happen.
Of course but much of the root is there.
If it was just a relucance to police their own, why are they so punitive to heterosexual priests who leave the priesthood to marry?
You overlooked a very important point, These priests left the priesthood. Once you are out then you are no longer under the shadow of the bureaucracy’s protection.
a. cricket
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