Posted on 04/12/2002 9:54:05 PM PDT by Jean S
The intafada, and the utter failure of Oslo PRECEDED Sharon, you are blaming the effect for the cause, that is a fallacy, and ridiculous.
Now, that Israel finds itself it a bind, it wants America to join it.
NO. It want's America to stay out of it and let it deal with terrorists. But then YOU don't want that. You, by your own admission, want America involved against Israel. Just like the Arabs who say we cannot be unbiased without being biased. You tell us we cannot be uninvolved unless we are involved. ludicrous.
But no, America prefers a stable Mideast than an increasingly inflamed and destabilized one.
Wherever there are Muslims there will be violence, murder and nonstability, its axiomatic. To blame Israel for the inept and violent idiocy of the ragheads world wide is just neo-marxist PC scapegoating.
What does it benefit us to support Israel? It benefits us in the form of the sale of arms, albeit paid for by us in aid. It benefits us in having an ally who has nukes in a very unstable region. It benefits us in having an ally who is willing to back us up if we have to face the Arabs in the form of a proven military force.
However it doesn't benefit us to flip flop about our support. But remember the flip flop only exists in the right wing of American politics. Powell's mission is playing well everywhere else but here.
And Netanyahu's whispering in Cheney's ear cememted more of our support than anything Powell will do over there.
Now about them bad guys in Iran and Iraq. I've got news for you. They are our guys. Bought and paid for. It's called blowback and the fact that we didn't deal with it the last time is more telling than anything Sharon will ever do. We've been throwing money around that region ever since FDR brokered our oil deals. Warts and all.
I don't think we'll invade Iraq because Putin met with Bush and promised to keep the black gold flowing from his sources. Expect to see UN weapons inspectors in Iraq before you see our troops.
But then again, what do I know.
But if they're already in power like Arafat, then we need to appease them and bash anybody who doesn't like them killing their people. Very consistent, not
What do you want, more Saddams and Ayatollahs across the Mideast?
No you must. 0therwise you would be against America's warmongering against Bin Laden and Mullah Omar. Which will create more Ayatollahs and Saddams.
Or then again maybe it would tell them that terrorism doesn;t get appeased. It doesn't work as a means to get what one desires. But you would have us reward it and nurture it by feeding its hunger. And this is supposed to be more stabilizing? Oh palllease!
America doesn't get 25% of its oil from the Mid East, only 10%. Mid East oil isn't important to the U.S. per se, it's important to the E.U. and Japan. If Mid East oil is cut off, it raises the price of oil to American allies, which then raises the price of oil globally which then would affect the U.S.
Also, Israel is of prime importance to the U.S. As a world-recognized ally of America, should Israel be abandoned by the U.S., what would that do for other U.S. allies like South Korea, Taiwan, the Kurdish zones, and other places which have a stake in U.S. strength and stability?
You haven't made any personl info available on FR, Newbie. Are from the DU or just another Muslim agitator come to stir up some dust?
THis is a lie.
Israel is asking America to support Sharon's actions 100%. That being the case, Israel has asked America to join its all-out war, but America has wisely resisted and rather has told Israel to cool it.
More of your "we must be involved to be uninvolved, we must be biased to be unbiased" double talk. As I said, we should stay out of it and say its none of our business, handle it yourselves. But you, by your own admission won't accept that. You aren't happy unless we are hypocritically beating up on a country for doing exactly what we are doing.
No, a pliant Saudi and other pro-US regimes are much preferable to Islamic funamentalist kooks.
The Saudi regime may well be the worst regime of all. DO you think it is just coincidence that 3/4 of the 9-11 hijackers were Saudis? That 2/3 of the Guantanamo mercenaries are Saudis? Did you know that the Saudis fund every madrassa (the school of wahabbism the most antiwestern most fundamnetalist sect of Islam) in the ME? Did you know they are giving money to the families of suicide bombers INCLUDING the saudis involved in 9-11?
Do you see where your oil comes before human decency leads?
All of them excpt arafat. Yes, yes I know. more of your consistency.
But America can't even attack Iraq right now because Sharon has inflamed the Mideast and any US attack could destabilize the Mideast and lead to popular revolts.
Nonsense, the ragheads all said they don't want us attacking Iraq before Arafat and his band of turds made things really bad in Israel.
Saddam has Sharon to thank for any US delay in attacking him.
No, he actually has people like yourself who think that we need to make the wothless ragheads love us (which they NEVER will) before we attack him.
This is a war of civilizations that has been ongoing for centuries. It's only just reached the shores of America. Just ask the Serbs...
And where all these guys you keep chicken littling about? You sound like the liberals talking about social security.
It's not a lie that Sharon's Temple Mount visit sparked the current intifada. They coincide almost perfectly in time, with the first suicide bombing occuring just a week after Sharon's ill-advised visit.
No what coincided was Oslo. Once Arafat could rebuild a terrorist organization with the help of his Oslo swindle, creating and arming the PA (a terrorist org) the suicide bombings and all the rest began.
Proving that, as I keep saying, the way to deal with terrorism is not to reward it, but to defeat it. History shows your way is a fialure, and mine is not. But there are none so blind as those who will not see.
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