New US Navy Report Supports Cold Fusion

US Navy | 4/13/02

[PeaceBeWithYou]

Thanks for posting this, I had read it a couple of months ago, but didn't bookmark it, or couldn't find it if I did(BG), and wanted to show it to a freind.

The deturiated acetone sonoluminace that ORNL is working on is cold fusion. We just haven't figured out how to do it on a scale that will be useful.

[edwin hubble]

science ping

[Timesink]

1) A two-month-old arcane technical article is not breaking news, period.

2) It is disingenuous to call this a "US Navy Report". It's simply something a US Navy employee wrote up on his own time stating his opinion. He has every right to do so, but it's hardly the same thing as "the US Navy supporting cold fusion." What it sounds like upon reading, of course, is a government employee writing his little heart out to get $$$$$$$ for his department.

[tet68]

Since the obstruction against cold fusion rivals that which happened to Galileo,

He was working on cold fusion? Kewl. I knew the oppressors were keeping us down but not for so long.

I got it now, Arafat has one of these and is using it to power his cell phone, that's why he's making "cold calls".

[edwin hubble]

I found these reports on a public web page at the Space and Naval Warfare Systems Center, San Diego" US Navy.
Technical Reports indes (look for #1862, Vols 1&2)

Why would they publish this breakthrough report on the web?

[edwin hubble]

Why would this cold fusion report be posted on the public website of a defense agency?
The report above strongly supports cold fusion. It is candidly written by a government scientist.
This not a very effective cover-up.

[Gordian Blade]

For what it is worth, I called Dr. Rich Carlin at ONR on October 16, 2001. He is head of their Physical Sciences and Technologies Division. His division used to fund cold fusion research during its peak, but no Navy funded research is going on now. He told me there are a lot of uncertainties remaining regarding the interpretation of the experiments and how well they were done, but ONR is not interested in funding further studies. ONR has no official position on cold fusion, but they are not pursuing it.

The official position of the US Navy does not support cold fusion of the Fleischmann and Pons type. In fairness, the official Navy position does not deny it either.

[harpseal]

btt

[Diogenesis]

It has been covered up for more than a decade.

[Diogenesis]

The article is not arcane.

It was not written by one person.

It was just released publically.

[Victoria Delsoul]

Thanks for the report.

Bump.

[Doctor Stochastic]

The government then classified 3000 ISSUED patents on Cold Fusion under because of National Security.

Please provide evidence of this claim. I haven't heard this one before. Good thing it wasn't 2948 patents, those last 52 patents could have been interesting.

[Doctor Stochastic]

... the presence of strange attractors...

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[CyberAnt]

Yeah, who is this "Jack" guy anyway?? ROTFLOL!!!

[CyberAnt]

Yeah, who is this "Jack" guy anyway?? ROTFLOL!!!

[apochromat]

To me, the context suggests that "strange attractors" may be a reference to round-off error artifacts, but I'm not absolutely sure of that.

[Diogenesis]

FWIW, several labs joined together in efforts for this report.

I hope you read it.

[apochromat]

On second thought, "strange attractors" is apparently a reference to measurements affected by turbulent media.

[apochromat]

I suppose someone with that screen name would actually know a lot about strange attractors, though.