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Personal Archives | April 14, 2002 | PsyOp

Posted on 04/14/2002 2:17:00 PM PDT by PsyOp

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To: KayEyeDoubleDee
except that Bill and Hillary are not producers of anything of worth

Except their hot-air contributions to global warming a.k.a. speaking engagements.

21 posted on 04/14/2002 4:30:39 PM PDT by PsyOp
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To: lewislynn
Billary is a looter. They produce nothing of value. They trade in favors and pull. Their earnings are the juices of corruption.
22 posted on 04/14/2002 4:33:16 PM PDT by motzman
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To: lewislynn
You are dreaming if you think the Clintons are going to pay taxes on this income. When hitlery wrote her stupid book about the cat and dog she fixed it so that even the taxes were put through the foundation and not paid by her. She was ridiculing Barbara Bush for not being smart enough to evade taxes on the book about Millie.
23 posted on 04/14/2002 4:35:29 PM PDT by OldFriend
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To: Libloather
You forgot slick willie's tag line during that revelation. He said he did it late at night and his momma told him not to make important decisions when he's tired.
24 posted on 04/14/2002 4:37:37 PM PDT by OldFriend
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To: PsyOp
WOW, all of these quotes you have put together in one place is fantastic. So much effort. I'm not worthy. Thanks alot.
25 posted on 04/14/2002 4:48:03 PM PDT by davetex
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To: PsyOp
You're welcome. You have FReepmail. &;-)
26 posted on 04/14/2002 4:51:20 PM PDT by 2Trievers
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To: PsyOp
The trick is to stop thinking it as `your' money. - IRS auditor.

The auditor must have been a democRat

27 posted on 04/14/2002 4:57:49 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: davetex
I'm not worthy.

That may be the IRS's view, but certainly not mine. Glad you liked the post.

28 posted on 04/14/2002 5:11:34 PM PDT by PsyOp
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To: Kaslin
That goes without saying.
29 posted on 04/14/2002 5:12:31 PM PDT by PsyOp
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To: Libloather
I think I raised them too much, too.

Really? Then why'd you do it? Just couldn't help yourself, could ya...?

30 posted on 04/14/2002 5:16:19 PM PDT by PsyOp
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To: PsyOp
Those that dont learn from history are doomed to repeat it????
31 posted on 04/14/2002 5:38:22 PM PDT by conserve-it
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To: PsyOp; OldFriend
I forgot about this one -

President Clinton yesterday recast his proposed USA (government subsidized) retirement accounts as a $500 billion-plus "tax-cut" to neutralize Republican calls for an across-the-board tax rebate.

Referring to the USA retirement accounts, he said he wants to make it possible, "through the tax cut, to help Americans save for the future." - Bill Clinton, February 18, 1999.

32 posted on 04/14/2002 5:43:29 PM PDT by Libloather
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Wow - found some more -

"I was worried that with the tax cut we wouldn't have enough money to repair New York and D.C. and to help the families of the thousands I knew must have died," - Chelsea Clinton, December 2001 issue of Talk Magazine.

34 posted on 04/14/2002 5:48:22 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: PsyOp
I'm gonna have fun with this!

''There's not enough money to do anything,'' Sen. Hillary Clinton said May 31, 2001 , warning that most people don't understand that Bush's $1.35 trillion tax cut - can't fund solutions for issues like a national energy supply, public education and economic revitalization.

35 posted on 04/14/2002 5:53:34 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: conserve-it
Those that dont learn from history are doomed to repeat it????

Or some variation of the theme.

36 posted on 04/14/2002 6:49:02 PM PDT by PsyOp
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To: alien
I had just finished typing up the article excerpt when I saw your comment. When I replied that I agreed with you, I just pasted the excerpt in to save time. Sorry if I confused things for you.

IMHO, however, there is a connection between what you say and those figures, though it is not directly proportional. Most of those in that top 50%, as well as some in the lower half, do complain about the taxes being too high, too complicated, or otherwise unfair.

If they did as you suggest, then things might start moving in the right direction.

37 posted on 04/14/2002 7:08:42 PM PDT by PsyOp
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To: Libloather
- Chelsea Clinton, December 2001

LOL! That is sooo precious! You can tell she studied economics at Berserkly!

38 posted on 04/14/2002 7:12:35 PM PDT by PsyOp
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To: OldFriend;motzman;KayEyeDoubleDee
You must have missed the < /sarcasm > tag.
39 posted on 04/14/2002 10:17:01 PM PDT by lewislynn
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To: PsyOp;alien;Taxreform

"The top 1 percent of income earners (adjusted gross incomes above $293,413) paid 36.2% of all federal personal income taxes."

I thought that you might like to know the source of that data.  It is compiled every year by the Tax Foundation.  It is always two years behind, because the IRS takes that long to release the raw data.  The complete table, shows who pays what amount of taxes by percentage and dollar amount and also indicates income level in dollars.  It is very interesting.  The complete data table for 1999 is located here.

I have been tracking the Tax Foundation data every year for some time and the interesting point that I have observed is that every year, while the top earners pay progressively more of the tax load, in proportion to their share of total income, Forbes data collected over the same time period shows progressively fewer billionaires in the US.  This becomes even more telling, when you consider that during that same time period, the number of billionaires worldwide has increased steadily.  This just adds to the growing amount of data indicating that the wealthy are taking the only option left to them by the US government - they are leaving.  This, of course, reduces the tax base accordingly.  Guess who gets to make up the difference.

Now we see the implementation of the (grossly misnamed) US Patriot Act, that is a direct attack on those who too efficiently use the deductions and exclusions, allowed in the tax code, to avoid (not evade) unnecessary taxes.  What effect do you think this will have on the wealthy, who pay the lion's share of the taxes.  That's right.  You can expect many more to leave within the next 12 to 24 months, as they get their money moved offshore.  That will translate into more lost tax base.  Guess who gets to make up the difference.

Take a look at that table and play with the numbers.  It's really scary.

 

40 posted on 04/15/2002 3:22:26 AM PDT by Action-America
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