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**CHINESE LEADERS QUIETLY TOURING ARAB STATES**
World Tribune.com and Geo Strategy Direct ^ | April 23, 2002 | Bill Gertz- Washington Times Military Reporter

Posted on 04/17/2002 8:46:42 AM PDT by codebreaker

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To: Jeff Head
Please note that on 1 May the ChiCom VP will be here in the US for an official "visit" - for meetings with VP Cheney as well as GWB. Similar scenario to another VPs visit to the US for "official talks". That other "visit" was on 6-7 Dec 1941, by the VP of Japan.

What other date on the calendar has about the same meaning as 911 (emergency)?? MAYDAY! These ChiComs love symbolism - and the coincidences are lining up behind these little b@stards to the point that they no longer appear to be "coincidental". They saw how our government kept one of the two chief executives sequestered away in safety after 911. Now they are sending their VP in as bait to get them both in the open at the same time. (Tell me that their president wouldn't use his apparent heir as bait. Go ahead, try.)

61 posted on 04/17/2002 12:23:30 PM PDT by 11B3
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To: b4its2late; LarryLied; backhoe; boston_liberty; Enemy Of The State; Libertina; flamefront; all
"Always sneaking around..."

Yep, of course.
Thanks b4 for this important ping. I might have missed it. Thanks.

62 posted on 04/17/2002 1:05:17 PM PDT by ChaseR
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To: John H K
It just takes a well planned coup and an invite from the new puppet to occupy and take taiwan. That is how they will do it. Mark my words.
63 posted on 04/17/2002 1:39:13 PM PDT by CJ Wolf
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To: galt-jw
Yes, and what about the 100million dollars or so the Chinese have dedicated to Cyber Warfare (taking down critical infrastructures in the US without firing a single shot)?????

Franklin


64 posted on 04/17/2002 1:57:41 PM PDT by survivalforum.com
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To: caa26
>The US is the world's only economic superpower...

You know, this is true in theory but I bet if you think of the actual reality around us you will see that reality is something different.

1) The US government and the Fortune 500 (or 1000) are completely separate things. They often see themselves as in conflict with each other. Therefore US policy forms no comprehensive "front" with US business interests.

2) The US Fortune 1000 are each separate, competing entities. The do not coordinate in detail with each other regarding foreign investments & policies, etc., therefore US business overall has no comprehensive "front" in regard to foreign competition.

3) The US Fortune 1000 have steadily made themselves global in that they have come to depend on foreign suppliers, foreign producers and all manner of transportation infrastructure.

If you compare the US to, say, Japan or France or even Britain, it is easy to look at raw numbers and say we surpass these countries in this or that statistic. But where we act and respond like 1,000 (or more) individual units, those guys have a defined (and, more importantly, believed in) cultural identity and national policies which direct them in acting as single units.

In a military campaign, a well-disiplined unit of small numbers can often cut right through a vastly larger force of unpracticed, uncoordinated rabble... Business is war...

We've seen, over the last few years, that America as a "super power" militarily has been something of a joke. We're seeing in Bush's stumbling around the Middle East that the US as a political super power is a joke. Looking at the fragmented nature of US business and government, I think a person could make the case that as an economic super power the US is a joke.

Mark W.

66 posted on 04/17/2002 2:15:34 PM PDT by MarkWar
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To: codebreaker
The President of the United States, Bill Clinton, gave China everything they need to destroy us.

I'm sure he's not wasting any time in Europe making sure it happens. That way, we can all "share the wealth for peace."

I swear, this guy is the anti-Christ. Nobody alive today fits the description so well.

67 posted on 04/17/2002 2:40:08 PM PDT by concerned about politics
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To: Jamten
Yes, but at least we know where they are...
68 posted on 04/17/2002 2:59:35 PM PDT by DB
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To: Thorn11cav
The Chinese want to test their new weapons by proxy to see how they do against us. They are probably either giving them away or at a greatly reduced price. This way they can make adjustments to them before they use them themselves and find out the hardway.
69 posted on 04/17/2002 3:03:15 PM PDT by DB
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To: codebreaker
One of my favorites...

During the altercation between the USA and China over our EP-3 the USS Chicago sailed into the Port of Sasebo in Japan. Great story, Oops, there's a nuclear sub in town! Just goes to show what flexing muscle can accomplish!

70 posted on 04/17/2002 3:30:49 PM PDT by Jeremiah Jr
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To: John H K
China to magically create a fleet of amphibious shipping larger than that used by the Allies to invade Normandy in 1944 (which is what would be needed to invade and conquer Taiwan);

It's not 1944 you know. There are other ways to move troops, and China has lots of commercial airliners, and a fair amount of commerical shipping too. They could just as well take an airfield through a combination of bombardment and airborne assault, possibly with helicopters. Then they'd use that field to bring in many more troops, and using their supperior numbers of aircarft to keep the ROCs from taking it back. The first objective after securing the airfield would be to take a port, where reinforcements and heavy stuff could be landed by commerical cargo ships. To pull this off however they would have to achieve at least local air superitority over a good portion of the Island, and of course they'd have to control the Taiwan Straits too, by a combination of Naval and Air power. They might have a chance to do that against the ROC, but not against the US, unless of course the US Navy, is tied down elsehwere. Of course they could miscalculate and think the entire US Navy was so tied up, but in reality it might be just the carriers, with the subs and some surface combatents free to defend the ROC. A few attack subs could pretty sink the PLA Navy, including it's subs, and any "civilian" PRC cargo ships that might get caught out of port. (Or maybe even in port, via Harpoons and Thomahawks)

71 posted on 04/17/2002 5:53:24 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: MarkWar
Sino news Bump!
72 posted on 04/17/2002 9:55:42 PM PDT by Soul Citizen
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To: Miss Marple; section9; sneakypete
ping.
73 posted on 04/18/2002 3:17:12 AM PDT by patriciaruth
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