Boys sneak in, but dad is charged

Oakland Press ^ | May 01, 2002 | STEPHEN W. HUBER

[general_re]

Well done. Admirable self-restraint on your part, too - were it me and my son, I might very well have had one less child after that incident than I did before it ;)

[ctdonath2]

Parents, make it clear to your children that not only will they get in trouble for sneaking other people into the house at night unknown to you, the intruders (as YOU decide who's an intruder, not your kids) risk being terminated on sight, especially if they are found hiding.

Also make it clear to your children that the same may happen (without warning) to them if they go sneaking into someone else's house without the homeowner's permission (regardless of the kids who live there).

Make it abundantly clear that the issue is not merely about "getting in trouble", it's about "getting dead".

[ctdonath2]

If my kid is involved, the other gets charged.

That's something else to have a serious chat with the kids about: the "friend" will be prosecuted (or worse), and the other parents may do the same. It's not just about "getting in trouble", it's about "getting jailed for a long time".

[AppyPappy]

Even if he is 14. If they are both under the age of consent, they are both guilty.

[mhking]

It's in Berkeley:

All your crime are belong to us.

[ArrogantBustard]

Make it abundantly clear that the issue is not merely about "getting in trouble", it's about "getting dead".

Quite. I note that the father in this case has a felony record, and may not own a firearm. My first thought was that had this been my household, the very least that the little brat would have received would have been a pistol-whipping.

AB

[Pearls Before Swine]

It's Berkley, Michigan, not the Peoples Republic of Berzerkeley, Kalifornia.

Oops, my bad. That isn't obvious from the reporting paper's name--"Oakland Press."

The fact that it was in Michigan makes it worse. I thought they still had some common sense in the Midwest.

[AppyPappy]

Otherwise, parents could be asking for prosecution of every sixteen year old boy who has sex with their fifteen year old daughter!

A 16 year-old asks a 15 year-old to sign a contract promising future income consideration in return for an Xbox. Is the contract legally binding?

[Still Thinking]

Usually, contracts are unenforcable when entered by someone under 18, unless they are for food or some other necessity of life. But then, maybe an Xbox is considered a necessity of life.

[AppyPappy]

Usually, contracts are unenforcable when entered by someone under 18

And why is that?

[oldvike]

"We're going to take this case under review at this point," Halushka said Tuesday. "We want to consult with the victims' families..."

Mr. Kerr was the victim, not the boys. JMO

[Still Thinking]

They are presumed by society not to have the ability to make a good deal or to commit to a binding agreement, I guess. The exception for necessities of life is intended to keep sellers from refusing to sell and endangering the life of the minor. The question of why we treat minors differently from "adults" is a long long discussion.

[Texas Mom]

Kerr said he grounded his daughter for a month because of the incident. How about till she is 32. She is lucky she isn't mine. She would he heading for a convent and I'm not even Catholic.

[Texas Mom]

I went back to check where this happened. Oakland Calif? Are you really surprised?

[Still Thinking]

See my post #30.

[Texas Mom]

Just did.. Thanks. Right church, wrong pew.

[El Gato]

WTF? The man had an intruder in his house for crying out loud.

Certainly a reasonable person would think that. However legally the boys were not intruders, since the girls let them in. Doesn't mean they shouldn't be in a world of trouble, nor that the father should be. A simple case of mistaken identity. The risk one takes when visiting 13 year old girls in the middle of the night. :)

[joathome]

I agree! But do you prosecute the fourteen year old boy, but not thirteen year old girl? Hey, I'm supposed to be a "man hater" here (or so I've been told), and teen age boys are not liable imo, if the girl is consenting, as well. I think some states require an age differential to be present. That's my only point.

If they were mine, they'd be grounded for life!

[Dan from Michigan]

Leave it to someone from Gorcyca's office to charge him for this.

If I was in Kerr's shoes, I'd be getting the shotgun out.

[Dan from Michigan]

Berkley Michigan(in Oakland County so easy confusion) is still pretty liberal. The prosecutor of the county, Gorcyca is a rat as well.