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Dutch Face Demons in Election
AP via Netherlands Post ^ | April 28 2002

Posted on 05/01/2002 2:35:36 PM PDT by knighthawk

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Fortuyn becamse famous when he went into debate on tv with Imam Haselhoef. Haselhoef claimed that homosexuals should be executed (he later said he was not talking about Holland, but in coutries where it is law, like Saudi Arabia). As Fortuyn is gay, I can imagine why he dislikes islam. Also Fortuyn's party (List Pim Fortuyn) is just one of the two parties (Livable Netherlands, the former party of Fortuyn) that supports Israel 100% (Fortuyn wrote in 1997 a book about Israel).

In Rotterdam, the city where his local party won the elections, a shocking crime figure was presented: after a report of the police, it became apperent that 99% of all street-robberies were being committed by immigrants (31% Moroccans, 45% Antillian, the rest by Turks or Easter-Europeans). Maybe that gives you people a clue why so many people voted Fortuyn.

The demonization of Pim Fortuyn, the Dutch up and coming politician

Also the Green party mentioned is Green Left. A few weeks after the debate where Rosenmoller made that remark about Fortuyn could not take critisizm, Rosenmoller made the same mistake. He was interviewed and he was asked what he and his party has done for the Dutch people, he answered with things like educational projects for criminal immigrants, integration projects and so on. The interviewer then asked him again, but he also added "no I did ask you what have you done for Dutch people". Rosenmoller was silent and began to stutter. He left and forbid broadcast of this interview. He later said that the interview could be broadcasted.

More on Green Left (and the PvdA, socialists) in Amsterdam and what they have done for us Dutch people:

Group-rape of girl cover up attempt uncovered in Holland
Group-rape of girl cover up in Holland - an update

1 posted on 05/01/2002 2:35:36 PM PDT by knighthawk
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To: knighthawk
He was a Communist for maay years, a factoid which is curiously omitted in this story...
2 posted on 05/01/2002 2:47:04 PM PDT by ken5050
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To: MizSterious; rebdov; Nix 2; viadexter; green lantern; BeOSUser; itsahoot; Brad's Gramma; dreadme...
Pim Fortuyn: At your service


3 posted on 05/01/2002 2:47:50 PM PDT by knighthawk
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To: ken5050
Yes, a Marxist. But we all make mistakes. He is cured now!
4 posted on 05/01/2002 2:49:19 PM PDT by knighthawk
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To: knighthawk
In Rotterdam, the city where his local party won the elections, a shocking crime figure was presented: after a report of the police, it became apperent that 99% of all street-robberies were being committed by immigrants (31% Moroccans, 45% Antillian, the rest by Turks or Easter-Europeans). Maybe that gives you people a clue why so many people voted Fortuyn.

AP thinks a truly TOLERANT people should overlook such a minor detail. Its gotta be the latent racism.

5 posted on 05/01/2002 2:50:08 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter
Just look at it this way: Only a small minority, 99%, of street-robberies is committed by immigrants.
6 posted on 05/01/2002 2:52:11 PM PDT by knighthawk
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To: knighthawk; Floriduh Voter
Didn't you promise us a while back a pic of Fortuyn with his two dogs and Duesenberg car? :)

His site www.pim-fortuyn.nl has "fotos", but can't be hyperlinked. Here's one from another site:

F.V. - shades of Karzai???

7 posted on 05/01/2002 2:58:50 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Shermy
I saw them on tv sitting with him in his Daimler car, and also in an interview, but there are no photos of that on the internet.

To make up for it his poster:


8 posted on 05/01/2002 3:05:01 PM PDT by knighthawk
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To: knighthawk
He calls Islam anti-secular and backward, and blames Muslim immigrants for rising crime. ``Islam separates people. They see us as inferior. Moroccan boys never steal from a Moroccan, did you ever notice that?'' he said to the newspaper De Volkskrant earlier this year.

If my choice was between the dubious Dutchman, and the murdering Musli, I'll take the Dutchman every time.

His points are right on target: Holland isn't an immigrant country (tiny, most densely populated in Europe). Musli don't follow long-held western values, do crimes.

Voters across Europe will be sending messages of (non)appreciation, to their governments.

9 posted on 05/01/2002 3:10:44 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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The thing is there are too much refugees coming here. More than 40.000 a year, which is about as much as Germany does. Fortuyn wants to only decrease that 10.000 a year, more like Denmark, who only allowes 6.000 a year.
10 posted on 05/01/2002 3:14:42 PM PDT by knighthawk
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To: truth_seeker
Musli? The plural of Muslim? I like that - I need to use that one!
11 posted on 05/01/2002 3:19:13 PM PDT by AzSteven
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To: AzSteven
Musli? The plural of Muslim?

Hmmm, I think muesli is a type of breakfast cereal.

12 posted on 05/01/2002 3:48:09 PM PDT by jimtorr
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To: knighthawk
I am not surprised they are facing demons. From what I understand, that country went to hades some time ago.
13 posted on 05/01/2002 4:08:15 PM PDT by Don Myers
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To: knighthawk
I had to laugh when the "social historian" (a perfect occupation for the PC if there ever was) whined about how the Dutch would object to the construction of a mosque but not a church.

Would our esteemed "social historian" care to project what the result would be, should a Christian choose to construct a church in Saudi Arabia?

Yet, the Dutch are expected to be tolerant of these invaders, who would show them zero tolerance whatsoever in their own Turd World hellhole homelands.

The history of Holland, a tiny nation which rose to greatness on the world stage (a greatness in vast disproportion to its size), proves that the nation did just fine without Islam. If and when it becomes Islamic, will it still be the same nation it was? Will it do just fine with Islam? Somehow I doubt it, and I have a sick feeling we are going to find out.

For a good laugh, by the way, go the Guardian talk boards and watch how self-hating, constipated, idiots perceive Fortuyn. One would think that these clowns would at least cut him some slack because he is an "oppressed person" himself, but one would be wrong. I suppose the ethnic/racial aspect trumps all others.

14 posted on 05/01/2002 4:21:44 PM PDT by Phillip Augustus
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To: knighthawk
Thanks for these posts on the Netherlands elections. You are our eyes on Europe. The question now is, what to do about the conditions already in existence ? The only remedy is to cull out those illegally there, and then for the Dutch to have more babies.

What do you think ?

15 posted on 05/01/2002 5:50:25 PM PDT by happygrl
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The only remedy is to cull out those illegally there, and then for the Dutch to have more babies.
Having babies?

While agree whole heartedly that all Europeans need to REPRODUCE. It is easier to get outsiders to do your dirty work. The mind-set that has immigrants doing the dirty work needs to be changed. Let in only the people who can make a contribution. If they stay 6 months without finding their place -- KICK-EM OUT!!

Nasty things have to be done to make society run and it is clear immigrants can be good or bad depending on the immigrants mind set. The Dutch have found out real quick that letting people in your country without skills doesn't work well most of the time.

In the US we have millions who stream across the border in the south without skills and their backlash hasn't been felt yet!!

16 posted on 05/01/2002 6:16:47 PM PDT by BeAllYouCanBe
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To: Phillip Augustus
For a good laugh, by the way, go the Guardian talk boards and watch how self-hating, constipated, idiots perceive Fortuyn.

This sounds interesting what are the URLs?

17 posted on 05/01/2002 6:35:02 PM PDT by BeAllYouCanBe
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To: BeAllYouCanBe
www.guardian.co.uk

Go to the Talk forums, then to the International Boards.

The boards have a few conservatives there, and although they are outnumbered, they generally are more intelligent than the Marxists, and make their points better.

18 posted on 05/01/2002 6:54:58 PM PDT by Phillip Augustus
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To: knighthawk
Thanks for the great post Knighthawk.

What's Pim's stance on the issue of recreational narcotics?

19 posted on 05/01/2002 7:15:58 PM PDT by 4Freedom
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To: AzSteven
Musli? The plural of Muslim? I like that - I need to use that one!

One thing you can be certain of the use of "musli" for more than one muslim: I DO mean for it to be disrespectful!!

20 posted on 05/02/2002 12:07:13 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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