Posted on 05/07/2002 10:39:37 AM PDT by sauropod
All by our "conservative" president and his Administration.
It's sick out there and getting Sicker!!!!!
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Where are the Bushies now? Are you all going to come out and bash this story because it is from the 'liberal press"?
Show me ONE instance where the Bush administration has actively undone a government land grap. EVERYTHING that has been won back so far has been because of court action....
I sure can. Maybe it's time for a repost of those infamous maps detailing these corridors for all the new folks at FR who may never have seen them.
Why shouldn't I believe it her policies are real killers. Need Water for fire? Ask EPA first. I once debated another Freeper on how bad it was to put Liberals in Cabinet positions. Liberals like Norton, Whittman, ect. I was given a reply of what can they hurt they have been put in career ending jobs. Well they continue to carry on their Liberal agenda it appears to me.
That would probably be okay, if they actually used the land to help our nation, but more or less it's just to offset foreign debt, as that is the only thing that is real collateral. Not to mention the fact that we seem to be importing refugees from other countries, and sponsoring them to live here. I've seen it. I've waited in line behind Somalis and they get paid to live here. Yes, your tax dollars are paid to these people to live in our country. Ironically, we as a nation don't know that these people are deliberately imported in by our government. I asked a Somali how he got here. He said he was flown in by our government. The same can be said of many others.
I'm infuriated at this point because I know the only reasons Land Grabs happen are to seize land to hedge foreign debt, or to give land to immigrants who are flown in, so that they can have their own lands here.
In all honesty, we should do away with most of the government we have so that local and state governments can serve their citizenry better, and look out for their interests first.
They seem to prefer the threads where they can rewrite the Bush kid's antics into a soap opera so as not to have to deal with this more austere political reality.
but try to find out-you cant-because the areas are closed and patrolled.
but wait, BOTH parties do it. now, why do you patrol empty land, which you just seized and closed access to? SOMETHING, right? not empty space in death valley. you tell me, if you think you know, but just shut up if all you have is sophmoric accusations of a conspiracy nuttiness. (9/11 WAS a conspiracy-of terrorists. conspiracies exist-regardless of denial, and wtc is all the proof you'll ever need to see that)
if you cant see something is up, youre still asleep.
(1) Since we are doubling the population every 40 years, we ought not to lock up the land, as there is money to be paid building housing for immigrants and urban-flight yuppies.
(2) Since we are doubling the population every 40 years, we'd better lock in expanded parks while we can.
(3) Maybe we should control immigration.
I lean towards #3, but from the tenor of recent reporting about events in France and the Netherlands, I guess that makes me an extreme right wing, proto-fascist, racist threat to the decency of the universe.
THAT is the point of their actions. They have removed, closed, or restricted nearly every campground at Lake Tahoe, a place where I grew up camping. They've already removed several popular campgrounds at Yosemite, another place I'd like to take kids camping. THEY DON'T WANT US TO USE THE PARKS. The more uncomfortable they make it, the less we use it. Mission accomplished. And, no, I don't need a tinfoil hat for THIS one.
I don't know how to post an image, but here's a reference to one.
I think that they may just get invited to a Tea Party should they keep this up. Come on, President Bush, you have a 1600 acre ranch yourself - how would you like it if the Park Service were to claim "Emminent Domain" on your property? Wouldn't you get a little angry? Then imagine how angry "We the People" feel when we get locked out of huge parcels of land we use for recreation. We - as the little guy - don't have the luxury of a 1600 acre ranch. When we want to get away from the cities, we go to the woods. Now they're getting locked away from us. Think about that.
Or do you just need something - anything - to bitch about? Grow up.
To Bush's credit, he was able to convince Congress to fund his environmental programs. These are grants to private property owners to manage their property in consideration of listed species or invasive species, or etc. In the FY 2002 budget he got about $ 50 million out of the $450 million federal portion of LWCF. He is asking for $100 million in FY2003.
You can bash Bush all you want but it only shows that you don't know what you are talking about. If you want to stop the Feds from buying private property, you need to talk to Congress.
I haven't been to Yosemite in years, but my understanding is that it has gotten very crowded with people and cars. I am not saying buses will help. I am just saying that it's my understanding that the problem cited above already exists. Have you been there recently? I was only there once and it was a dozen years ago. I went to Arches Nat'l Park in Moab, Utah and Rocky Mountain NP in Colorado this year and they were both excellent parks. I had a great time.
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