Extreme? Pim Fortuyn was not who they say he was.

National Review Online ^ | May 9, 2002 | Rod Dreher

[July 4th]

Nice piece. Bump.

[alisasny]

i>Bringing in more poorly educated people with no income is a burden we can no longer bear.

This is the truth for USA as well. Immigration should be limited to need. If we need programmers then all immigrants must be programmers..ect.....

[VoiceOfBruck]

Thanks for the article. Whenever the mainstream media labels people as "Far Right," I assume they're moderate until proven otherwise.

[DTA]

bump

[xm177e2]

Fortuyn's death is forcing people to take an honest look at what he really stood for, and at the demonization at the hands of the Left. Right-wing parties will sweep the elections there.

[Maceman]

I love how Reuters and AP won't use the word "terrorists" to describe people who fly planes into buildings on the grounds that it is too subjective an appellation, but have no problem using a meaningless term like "right wing" that is used to describe everyone from Adolf Hitler to Alan Keyes.

[x]

Postwar European politics, when Socialist or Social Democrats weren't in power, were dominated by Christian Democrats who embraced the welfare state and sought to fuse left and right in a union against Communism. As for the the older "bourgeois" liberal parties, even in cases when they retained something of their free market roots they still left middle-class or traditional moralism far behind behind them. So reform of the welfare state, immigration procedures and social policy gets left up to outsiders who are labeled "extreme right."

One sees the same dynamic in Canada and in some states of the US. It's certainly curious that the sort of liberals who would most readily cite J.S. Mill would be so quick to support the suppression of dissenting ideas, something that he deplored. It may have something to do with the fact that people who become liberals -- and indeed people who become politically active for any cause -- have a stronger sense of their own virtue and its importance and greater desire to change the world, than to dispassionately and disinterestedly consider ideas which go against their own.

[aristeides]

Pim Fortuyn thread.

[Prodigal Son]

"Fortuyn, an extreme hard right ultra Nazi conservative anti immigrant politician was killed by a concerned voter..."
The sheople are waking up. The media are one of the wolves in the pasture.

[Prodigal Son]

Nice compilation of his views.
He sounds more like an ideal American than anything else (racist, nazi etc) and I would probably have voted for him.
Actually, I think our country would be the better to have more politicians of this stripe and honesty.

[Shermy]

This is the best one, ty.

[knighthawk]

Ping

IN MEMORIAM
PIM FORTUYN
1948 - 2002

[The KG9 Kid]

Oh sure: That Fortuyn guy was a regular Adolf Hitler.

The media goaded a nut to slay Pim Fortuyn with their constant assault on him.

The news-gatherers even control who dies now, instead of just how they live.

[general_re]

Whenever the mainstream media labels people as "Far Right," I assume they're moderate until proven otherwise.

Excellent-rule-of-thumb bump.

[backhoe]

If mild free-market libertarianism like this is "far right...

I consider myself conservative, but I have no problem with Pim's positions- looks like common sense to me. It is certainly not extremist by any stretch of the imagination.

Personally, I've always followed Ronald Reagan's dictum,

"If he's with you 80% of the time, he's not your enemy..."

And I have always believed that you can support a man you do not always agree with- but you can't support a man whose word you can't trust.

Being from the South, I have, in years past, voted for Democrats who were more conservative than so-called "moderate" Republicans- my criteria for support were "Does he strongly support the First & Second Amendments, and understand the vital importance of the other eight?" "And understand the need for a strong military?"

I always figured if we kept America free, sovereign, and strong, we could argue the details of the other stuff- like abortion and drug laws- later. First things first.

[Steve Eisenberg]

Mr. Fortnyn was no fascist, but, sadly, no conservative either. Here is better article on Fortyn than the one starting this thread:

How the West was lost

[4Freedom]

Thanks for the heads-up, Knighthawk.

[LRS]

The hypocritical left loves to tell people "The world is not black and white", yet they are the ones who live in a black and white world. If one does not follow their stance on an issue, then that person is labled as a member of the extreme right....