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Press coverage of implanted chips distorted?
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Saturday, May 11, 2002 | By Sherrie Gossett

Posted on 05/11/2002 12:53:56 AM PDT by JohnHuang2

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To: Judith Anne
The stunning array of potential uses ADS is pushing aggressively include the implantation of prisoners, parolees, people under house arrest, children, the elderly, airport workers, nuclear power plant workers, gun owners and computer users (as a form of logon ID).

The way this is being presented, one day you might not have a choice. Well, you'll have a choice but be ostracized by your community and you'll have to go live with the outcasts. I have a feeling, the way it's being presented by the media, there won't be many of us, but there will be some of us.

But it's to protect our freedoms!! they say. Would someone please explain to me, if the national government knows where you are all the time, and what you're doing (with the camera surveillance I imagine that's not far off), exactly how are we free again? Oh, I forgot, we're safe!!

And that just does loads for me < /sarcasm>

21 posted on 05/11/2002 1:06:18 PM PDT by billbears
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To: billbears
Well, when there are a bunch of folk who have nothing left to lose, anymore, I'll be among 'em. ;-D Years ago, I made up my mind. I'm ready for the consequences, and I think I understand what they really are, if ADS has its way. God have mercy.
22 posted on 05/11/2002 1:15:32 PM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: EggsAckley
I would go hide out in a cave before I'd let these MFers implant ANYTHING in me.

That is only after I take a few of them out first. ;-)

23 posted on 05/11/2002 1:18:40 PM PDT by StriperSniper
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To: GailA
I will do what I can to ensure that it remains voluntary. I am wholly opposed to mandatory tracking devices. Although, the gov could institute thumbprint ID's at any time (I would oppose that too) at airports, toll roads, etc (and to a large extent they have!). But, you can't stop progress. Someone has developed this chip. That's good for human progress. Some good can come from the concept. Tracking people so the gov can watch us is not the ideal use for such a chip, and I can't see much good coming from it. Helping people live better, longer lives is a good use for it.
24 posted on 05/11/2002 1:19:21 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: JohnHuang2
An implantable tracking chip is not possible. Another distortion from press coverage. First, the chip would require an external antenna. A chip will not be able to receive a signal through the body at GPS frequencies. A body is essentially saltwater. High frequncies simply do not go through it because of the electromagnetic attentuation factor through a conductor called the skin effect. Assuming this physical limitation doesn't exist or that you do have an external antenna then you still have to deal with transmitting the return signal. For a low power transmitter you will need a transceiver about every 3 to 5 feet. If you want to transmit out to say a mile, you are looking at something like a cellphone battery for only a few hours of usable time. Any further and you will need to start weight training so you can carry lead acid batteries. It would also be useless in remote locations.

Sub-dermal chip tracking is science fiction.

25 posted on 05/11/2002 1:20:15 PM PDT by Hard Case
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To: madfly;tech_index; Mathlete; Apple Pan Dowdy; grundle; beckett; billorites; ErnBatavia...
Science Fiction comes alive.

I would suppose one of Ray Bradbury's books would have this in it!

To find all articles tagged or indexed using tech_index

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26 posted on 05/11/2002 1:23:14 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Judith Anne
Those of us are choosing not to get implanted will end up being labeled as terrorists, or deviants of some kind. What you'll have to watch out for is some doctor giving you an immunization, and if you don't already have the chip, he'll give you one without your permission, or refuse to immunize you until you acquiesce, and accept it. I for one am never going to be innoculated with a chip.

The only good reason I can think of for this technology, is to protect people from alien abductions like an Anti-Theft Device.

The only thing this will be used for, will be to take away your rights, freedoms, and your money. It will be used to control your life, your travel, and who you are seen with. There will be a high profile kidnapping story, and the byline will be it could have been prevented by having a chip implanted.

There will be more cases of identity fraud, and the media and government will demand that people start to use the chip to protect their identity. This will also lead to the end of paper currency, as Identity Fraud, and Currency counterfeiting will be exposed more to us as dangerous. People will give up their freedoms one at a time because they'll be brainwashed into thinking it will be for their own good. I say to all of those sheep out there just waiting to be taken to the slaughter, enjoy your safety while it lasts, because it will be fleeting.

There are so many idiots who think that digital technologies are the answer, when in fact they are more of a problem. My wife just found out that since 1978 the IRS and the Social Security Administration had her birthday confused with another tax payer. Isn't that nice? Not only did this error screw up her tax refund, but, her student loan debt tripled. She's been told that regardless of their mistake, the only thing that's going to get fixed is her birthdate. The money that someone else got for education, and her social security payments is gone.

You see, there's a problem with government and technology. Neither one is worth a damn when really large. The fact that we have to live with their mistake is not only an insult, but a grevious injury. If there is one thing I'd like to see happen to our nation, it would be that our government would shrink, and become less intrusive in our lives. I'd also like it very much if our leaders would start to represent our interests instead of their own.

That of course will never happen, since Larry Ellison, coupled with Digital Angel has seen fit to not only do all of the work necessary to create a nation wide database on everyone, but helped to develop the chip technology for human use in the first place. You see, there are dangerous people in the world, and none of them have been truly vilified the way they should be. When one person controls your life, in every facet, they are your oppressor. This is only yet another form of oppression.

Throw out your credit cards. Get rid of your cellphones, kiss your cable goodbye, as well as your internet access. Throw it all away, and do all of your business in person. Pay cash for everything when you can. Don't be afraid of government, that's how they get their power. I hate what our nation is becoming, and it's becoming this police state because of true, unparalleled idiocy. I hope someday the stupid are rounded up like cattle, and hauled away, to let the intelligent people who are free thinkers live in peace.

27 posted on 05/11/2002 1:27:30 PM PDT by MadRobotArtist
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To: MadRobotArtist
>I hope someday the stupid are rounded up like cattle, and hauled away, to let the intelligent people who are free thinkers live in peace.

Here's a site you may enjoy. An economics professor has done some thinking on stupidity and come up with some interesting thoughts: "THE BASIC LAWS OF HUMAN STUPIDITY," by Carlo M. Cipolla

Mark W.

28 posted on 05/11/2002 1:33:15 PM PDT by MarkWar
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To: MadRobotArtist
I've lived long enough to have some practice in living with labels--"they" can call me whatever "they" want. ;-D And do whatever "they" want to me. I have no desire to live forever, except in Heaven.
29 posted on 05/11/2002 1:51:33 PM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Quix
***another article to index, if you would be so kind***
30 posted on 05/11/2002 2:04:42 PM PDT by Phil V.
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To: JohnHuang2
Well, in all fairness, CBS did show a few quotes from one of the guy's who was implanted.

If I'm not mistaken, the buck-toothed implant recipient said something like,

"Meesa no think bad chip implant. Meesa think it give safety good!"

31 posted on 05/11/2002 2:13:21 PM PDT by Jay W
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To: JohnHuang2
By September, you can be assured that 9/11 will become the rallying cry for justifying the implantation of angel chips in everyone (public servants being the first candidates). This will facilitate the tracking of military, police, firefighters, emt's, etc. Within 10 years, you can be assured that infants will be implanted at birth ... bank on it. No chip? No birth certificate!

Insidious, isn't it!

32 posted on 05/11/2002 3:18:11 PM PDT by NYer
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To: JohnHuang2;DH;Free the USA;TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!;seamole; 2Jedismom; 2sheep; Aliska...
Could this be the Mark of the Beast
The incredable Tesatamony by Carl Sanders

Some excerpts.....

Carl Sanders sat in 17 New World Order meetings with heads of state officials such as Henry Kissinger and Bob Gates of the CIA to discuss plans on how to bring about this One World System. The government commissioned Carl Sanders to design a biochip for identifying and controlling the peoples of the world- a biochip that could be inserted under the skin with a hypodermic needle (a quick/convenient method that would be gradually accepted by society).

Carl Sanders, with a team of engineers behind him, with U.S. grant monies supplied by our tax dollars, took on this project and designed a biochip which is powered by a lithium battery rechargeable through the temperature changes in our skin. Without the knowledge of the Bible (Bro. Sanders was not a Christian at the time), these engineers spent one and half million dollars doing research on the best and most convenient place to have the biochip inserted. Guess what? These researchers found that the back of the hand is not just the most convenient place but is also the only viable place for rapid, consistent temperature changes in the skin to recharge the lithium battery. The biochip is approximately 7mm in length, .75 mm in diameter, about the size of a grain of rice. It is capable of storing pages upon pages of information about you. All your general history, work history, crime record, health history and financial data can be stored on this chip.

These biochip implants are designed to become our passports, driver's licenses, health care cards, social security cards, etc. In other words, they will become our UNIVERSAL ID and ATM /DEBIT CHIPS all in one. One World, One Biochip. Presently, AT&T advertises it's new contactless, electronic smart card as, "One World. One Card." Simply pass your right hand over a radio-frequency (RFID) scanner and you will be identified instantaneously and processed automatically wherever you are. A radio wave will pass through the skin of your hand, activate your ID transponder, and transmit your unique ID number back outside the skin to the scanner. This entire process of identification will require only about two seconds. Computers in the new, digitized, fiber-optical Information Superhighway infrastructure will do the rest. It looks like that in the very near future, all buying and selling will be controlled. Scan your hand, and debit your account. How wonderful...

Bro. Sanders believes that this biochip which he regretfully help design may be the "mark" spoken about in Revelation 13:15-17. The original Greek word for "mark" is "charagma" which means a "scratch or etching, i.e., a stamp or badge of servitude, a mark" . It is also interesting to note that the number 666 is actually a word in the original Greek. The word is "Chi Xi Stigma", the first part denoting the number 666 and the last part "stigma" meaning "to stick or prick, a mark incised or punched (for recognition of ownership)". Look it up yourself, it's exactly what it means! In light of these definitions, implantable biochips could very well be the physical "mark" spoken of in the book of Revelation!

Tattoos and different forms of electronic medium under the skin has been seriously considered to make this system foolproof. But the wonder boy of choice is the biochip. It's easy to manufacture, has a variety of applications, can be implanted quite quickly and conveniently- as quick as a flu shot!

Also in 1974, a strange, new mark began appearing on products- UPC barcode. Virtually every product is now marked with the familiar UPC barcode. Interestingly enough, did you know that there are three embedded numbers on every UPC barcode? What are the three hidden numbers? Wouldn't you know- 666!

All of the marks, or bars are associated with numbers at the bottom, except the marks at the first, middle, and end. The marks for the number "6" are "||". And these marks are the same marks at the first, in the middle and at the end of every barcode! The number "666" is hidden in every UPC bar code!

(If you don't believe it, get a bar code and look at it!.) Something else has mysterious appeared. In the last few years, some UPC codes have appeared with additional boxes underneath the bar code. Beside the boxes are 2 letters - the letter F and the letter H! Could they stand for forehead or hand? Am I paranoid or is someone following me?


33 posted on 05/11/2002 3:51:03 PM PDT by It'salmosttolate
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To: It'salmosttolate
The day they legislate it Im off to the mountains
34 posted on 05/11/2002 3:56:24 PM PDT by Governor StrangeReno
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To: Governor StrangeReno
Mark.13

1.[14] But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not,
(let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:

35 posted on 05/11/2002 3:59:55 PM PDT by It'salmosttolate
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To: NYer
As good as some of the uses for this sound (like tracking child molesters), I'm reminded of the fact that what started off as a secondary violation for seatbelt usage (they can't pull you over for it, but can add it on to any other existing violation) has now gone to a primary violation here in Washington state. A bit strange that the ACLU has backed off of this "Brave New World" techno-threat, but I'm sure there are categories of people (like gun owners) they'd love to see it implanted in.

Even if its use as a criminal enforcement tool is declared unconstitutional, its use as a condition of employment or qualification for living in a certain neighborhood is possible under contract law. This is the biggest threat to law-abiding citizens.

The social security number started out as a simple means of identifying payments into a questionable tax scheme, now its the way your identity can be stolen. Criminals will always find ways to make fake chips, just the way they can get fake Social Security cards and other ID's, its only the decent citizens who will have their rights violated by this.

Just keep this to pets, and we'll be OK.

36 posted on 05/11/2002 4:26:57 PM PDT by hunter112
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To: NYer; ArrogantBustard; sockmonkey; Diago; Diva; Stingray51; brat; frogandtoad; Domestic Church...
Insidious and utterly evil. I can see it happening with so many not understanding what is at stake.

So no subdermal 666 biochip ... then no birth certificate, no identity, no citizenship. It all adds up to the work of Evil itself.


Ping from the Princess of Ping

37 posted on 05/11/2002 4:30:14 PM PDT by Siobhan
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To: JohnHuang2
Just remember that the Nazis has registered (tag) all the Jews long before they sent them to the concentration camps.

I feel like a Jew, from the early 1930's, in Germany.

But judging from the past, I know what is going to happen next.

38 posted on 05/11/2002 4:36:39 PM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: JohnHuang2
Bump to the top.

Just curious, what if you go into the hospital for minor surgery (or dentist for a filling). Would you even know if it was implanted? How big is it?

39 posted on 05/11/2002 4:37:04 PM PDT by hattend
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To: monkeyshine
"The grey area I see is with children"

It will become part of the standard procedures for newborns...after they get the apgar and blood work out of the way this will be a routine procedure. Initially they will ask for parental approval on some form but then state by state it will be mandated. Time to start pushing for legal exemption for religious or philosophical reasons NOW!
40 posted on 05/11/2002 4:53:55 PM PDT by Domestic Church
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