Posted on 05/11/2002 8:33:19 AM PDT by Patriotman
(But I have to wonder - does this previous poster have a gun cabinet with a clear front (like I used to)? I have one pistol that is instantly accessible, but the rest of my weapons are locked up securely in a safe, out of sight. No inspector or anyone else for that matter would have ever seen them unless they were looking for them.)
What "constitutional rights" have I taken from anyone? Be specific, please - ranting and whining do not count.
But, next time, the government will take some of your rights and see how you like it.
If you are referring to some soi-disant "right" of a tenant in a multi-family complex to burn me and my family to death because they have 17 TVs, radios, toasters, and computers plugged into the same faulty electrical outlet, the government is more than welcome to that particular "right".
Move.
I already have - to a nice single-family dwelling in an unincorporated area. Acre and a half, no inspectors (except the one I voluntarily allowed to check my wiring work), everything's constructed to code, properly maintained, and safe (except the garbage disposal which quit again last night, but I'm off to Lowes later today to get a new one). Can you say the same about your bunker or trailer park?
Sometimes they're not all out to get you, guy.
I can only imagine what wrath I will now have to deal with.
So how does it feel to get taken? I have been building, repairing and remodeling houses and light commercial for 30 years. I am second generation. There isn't a honest builder, carpenter or plumber that won't tell you the codes cost you more, make them do and charge for senseless things, and then overlook others. Furthermore the quality of code enforcers is a standing uniform joke. They are total losers. I am not being antigovernment here, it is just a fact. Don't confuse the dream, the desire and theory with reality. Since all contractors are under price pressure, and since the code and inspectors require certain things, but are silent on others, guess where the money to keep costs down comes from. I will give you an example. I get a call. A women has an old house and she is living in it. It was built after the war and wouldn't pass code now. She has x amount to spend. It is going to take 4x. I call over my electrician and plumber and we work out a plan of attack, taking a few years due to her budget to bring the house around. All illegal. Because the minute we pull a permit the town will require 5X amount of work, and want it all done now regardless of her, me, the electrician, the plumber or the money. You call them, your house is their house. So we don't call, take a few years and everybody is happy, save the papershuffelers. It didn't used to be this way, you could work with the inspectors, but now with liability and the passing on of the old guard it is alll laptop nazis and court orders. Frankly these people are strangers. They are not me, not the customer, not any of the allied trades. They are just somebody that gets inbetween and has their hand out for doing no work.
I will not comply to this rental bill.
This will be my line in the sand that the government better not cross.
How long before the first catastrophe, followed by great gnashing of teeth, an investigation, revelations that the board of inspectors was underfunded, or run by an incompetent, demands for more funding, you know the drill. I doubt seriously any local government could conduct effective inspections of every rental property in a timely enough manner to make any real difference. I'm sure there are far fewer restaurants than rental properties in this locale, and I wonder how often and how thoroughly the restaurants are inspected.
It's in the landlords best interest to maintain the terms of the lease and local housing codes in order to attract tenants. Let them do the inspecting. If renters don't want to live in a property where the landlord fails to maintain minimum standards, that's their choice.
Sorry to hear about that nosy parker - I believe you did the right thing in calling his bluff. If that makes you a "subversive," so be it, I guess.
I'm still awaiting a reply from anyone interested in this thread explaining to me how such legislation could be construed as "unreasonable" (i.e.; "reasonable searches and seizures").
Passive languange.
Who, or what changed them? Who or what is constantly changing them. The government. So, you are putting your faith in the very organ that is distroying America. What is that called, Stockholm symdrome?
But Smart Growth and Agenda 21 are not occurring in a vacuum. They are U.N. driven, socialist plans concieved by conniving International Socialists and implemented by Billy Jeff Blythe, international bungler and national disgrace.
Check seamole's Enviral list and catch up with the rest of us, you just might end up on the same page as we.
Passive languange.
Irrelevant. Living conditions in 21st Century America HAVE changed and are different, for the better as far as I'm concerned. I have to wonder just how many of you Internet Rambos would handle it (besides simply roll up against the wall and die) if you got typhoid from your drinking water tomorrow? Or cholera next week from improperly-cured meat? Or a potentially life-threatening infection from something as simple as a bad tooth next month (hard to find a pharmacy dispensing antibiotics in the Philadelphia of Ben Franklin's time, for example).
You're apparently falling into the same trap that many people fall into; nostalgia for a time and a place that wasn't quite as nice as you might think. The America of our forefathers even a couple of generations ago was a lot rougher, more untamed place than it is today. But hey, if you want to cut your own fuel, dig your own well, and build oxcarts to get around, no one's stopping you.
Speaking strictly for myself, I am very much a creature of my time, and I happen to like the time I'm living in. I enjoy having air conditioning, automobiles, computers, antibiotics, clean and safe drinking water, and air travel. If that makes me a commie or soulless Borg, then so be it.
Who, or what changed them?
The passage of time; progress (or entropy, depending on your view).
Who or what is constantly changing them. The government.
No, see above. Government changes nothing - it simply is (at least in the society I live in). We live in a time in which there is a certain amount of government. Here in the US, we have the opportunity (and the obligation) to use the vote to change the government for the better, if we feel that it does indeed need to be changed. It doesn't always work that way, and there are certainly abuses of the system perpetrated by the black hats (and there are always black hats in our midst). But, to paraphrase the famous quote, "While capitalism is the second worst system to live under, everything else is worse."
So, you are putting your faith in the very organ that is distroying America.
Do you drive? If so, have you ever used a public road (paid for by taxes)? Interstate highways (paid for by taxes)? Electricity (quite a bit of the country's electrical grid was built under government auspices)? If you have, by your own argument you're a hypocrite.
It must be difficult for you to find a good farrier for your mule these days.
What is that called, Stockholm symdrome?
Better than paranoia, IMO.
According to my (admittedly) hurried reading of the article that Patriotman posted to start this thread, the bill that is the subject of this thread is limited to a handful of communities within one state (Maryland). Did I miss something?
But Smart Growth and Agenda 21 are not occurring in a vacuum. They are U.N. driven, socialist plans concieved by conniving International Socialists and implemented by Billy Jeff Blythe, international bungler and national disgrace.
What do "Smart Growth" and "Agenda 21" have to do with the bill described at the top of this thread? If you wish to discuss those topics, you should consider starting a new thread on those subjects.
Check seamole's Enviral list and catch up with the rest of us, you just might end up on the same page as we.
It would be helpful if you would post a link for this "Enviral list" thingie. The only link I could find on a Google search is this one, which looks like a granola-crunching group out of the UK.
Yes, you missed the fact that this is a local component of a national agenda.
What do "Smart Growth" and "Agenda 21" have to do with the bill described at the top of this thread? If you wish to discuss those topics, you should consider starting a new thread on those subjects.
Smart Growth and Agenda 21 are the U.N. sponsored NGOs behind this national and worldwide agenda and therefore germaine to the discussion.
And if you hadn't been in such a pro-government snit, attempting to denigrate my post so hurridly, you would have noticed that the link I posted was indeed a live link.
By the way: Government is the Anti-Christ.
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